Trump is a compulsive liar. My point is that lying is standard fare for politicians, if you take what they are saying at face value you are off to a bad start. Look at your own glorious leader, has he ever opened his mouth and not either lied or misspoke?
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Stop trying to change the subject. According to you Trump lied about something that could be fact checked in seconds. That’s laughable.
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on the button as usual
@anon7035031 is a terrifying example of what’s happening now. People just choosing what news to believe in depending on what their agenda is.
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The real issue here is the dumbing down of society. Reason has been replaced by emotion, and social media is accelerating the trend.
There are “not my president” marches here today in honor of Presidents’ Day. While the demonstration of democratic opposition is to be lauded, its when the participants are interviewed the fun starts. One stated that they were marching to protect the LGBTQ community who Trump was attacking.
Never mind the fact that at a campaign rally before the election, Trump saw a LBGTQ banner in the audience, asked the person to come forward and he held the banner aloft. Never mind the fact that not one utterance has been made against anyone due to their sexual orientation, quite the opposite.
The fact the media don’t try and educate or at least question people making these kinds of statements is scandalous.
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There’s no point engaging in any form of debate with @Sidney pal,
The fella is a proper lunatic.
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What are in even trying to say?
Trump was talking about the dangers of uncontrolled immigration (listen to the whole segment rather than the soundbite). He has constantly used Europe as the example of failed immigration policy. It’s hardly a new phenomena, accepting refugees and then doing nothing to integrate them is a policy for failure (look at the Paris and Brussels suburbs). Sweden is the latest example, there has been no plan to integrate their refugees, just politicians clapping themselves on the back for how noble they are. Without successful integration, you are inevitably creating the next generation of radicals.
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I presumed he just made a mistake. You believe that he lied. I’ll take you at your word. It’s terrifyingly hilarious if so but so be it.
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Not as clear cut as you make out - VP has a track record which would concern the LGBT community as does Sec of Defence. Having said that he did row back on revoking certain Obama executive orders after LGBT lobbying.
https://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_candidates_on_LGBTQ_rights
I’d like to commend @anon7035031’s work and they way he has diverted/ resisted from cheap point scoring… @TheUlteriorMotive has followed suit and is playing the ball, not the man, here.
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Scott Adams blog is very good for a counter view point on Trump
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@ChocolateMice playing a blinder here.
Scott is simply outstanding, there are very few that can cut to the chase so well on human behavior. Note that he is a Trump explainer, not a Trump supporter, a distinction lost on the idiot general public.
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Impartial and unbiased moderation, I wonder will it catch on?
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We can only hope. Never thought I’d be saying the words @ChocolateMice, the voice of reason.
Lying at least 80 times in 28 days, mostly in blatant fashion, is anything but standard fare for a politician.
And that’s only the last four weeks we’re talking about. Trump has been lying and simply making up in exactly the same fashion since he declared his candidacy.
Not standard fare at all - standard fare for tinpot dictators and demagogues perhaps, which is why it’s no surprise that Mugabe, Putin and Duterte all love Trump.
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That’s a clear attempt to play the ball… Carry on gents.
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The United States of America is the ultimate example of uncontrolled immigration and yet you claim it to be the greatest country in the world.
I find it amusing to see the faux shock at a politician not telling the truth.
The darling of the liberals, Barrack Obama, lied repeatedly during his presidential election campaigns, and again when in office. He lied about not looking for new dragons to slay, or words to that effect, and yet he actively engaged in new military offensives in countries such as Syria, Lybia, and Somalia. The US military appear to have been involved in offensives in more countries by the end of Obama’s second term than when he took office initially.
He also lied about not raising taxes, he lied about where his political donations came from, he lied repeatedly about Obamacare (do you remember the porky about the Illinois man that died (he didn’t) because insurers delayed treatment?), etc. The man is a politician. And he made shit up on the spot. This is standard practice for politicians. It would be remiss of someone purporting to be an expert on US politics to think otherwise.
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Its not the fact that he lied, it didnt appear to be a lie. it was the fact that he seemed grossly misinformed and was taking his information from the media that he was decrying. Hes the CIC FFS, he shouldn’t be getting intelligence from Fox News anyway.
Anyway, it was initially believed that it was misinformation, but I’ve since been assured that he was lying. To what end lying about an attack is Sweden helped him, has yet to be made clear, but it will be fascinating to see this one play out.
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