Of course the media hasnāt reported on the effects that underfunding and scathing cuts have had on mental health services and the destruction and deaths this has wrought
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Mental health is an easy fix. All lads should be uploading selfies onto Facebook right now and āopen upā more.
We need more AWARENESS
Iām becoming more torn on this. All the funding in the world wonāt help some people who donāt even realise they have issues and then experience some kind of traumatic event that causes them to take the most extreme action.
Iāve had 2 suicides in my extended family, 1 where noone including the manās wife had any clue that he had āissuesā and to this day it makes no sense what drove him to it. Weāve just become thankful he didnāt do anything to her or their child.
And in the 2nd case he was in John of Godās for months and showed massive improvement. Little did they know he was playing them for fools and got out for a weekend visit home for his mother to find him hanging. At least this one made more sense but the best services in the country couldnāt save him. Again, he could have done something to his wife and kids but thankfully didnāt.
I guess what Iām saying is that the services can only help if itās caught early enough. Funding is fuck all use once someone is beyond a certain stage or may not even know themselves that they have an issue. Iāve no idea how to solve it but throwing money into areas that canāt solve it isnāt the answer.
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Appreciate what youāre saying but definitely wonāt know if you donāt try though, which is where weāre at now.
There is a basic thing in the Irish male psyche or culture about not opening up. Itās awful. Thatās why I love tfk, we can vent a bit.
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I think the mental health approach, while needed, is over done. It will not solve the problems of modern life. It wonāt make car insurance any cheaper, it wonāt help get rents to respectable levels, or make our education sysstem more inclusive, stop racism, or it wonāt reduce bullying in kids (this is something that might be impossible to stop, its part of growing up), it not going to stop all the things that emotionally unstable people and/or mentally ill cannot handle these days.
The blocks to living a standard life for many in modern Ireland are great and i think dealing with mental health awareness is good for a lot of people, but way too late for a big number too.
Oh ya and shit and absent parenting is going to cost us for a long time to come too. Kids lack coping skills in more cases than i remember these days.
Sure how could you be unhappy? Donāt you have a grand job, a nice house, and a good family. Sure youāve no reason to be depressed. Cop yourself on and get on with your life. A good boot up the hole will solve all your āmental healthā issues.
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No man, unless he is an absolutely psychopathic monster, in his right mind could do that to his children.
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for all intent and purposes he was a good GGA man, went to a club game that day and was club treasurer and then this.
could it have been an instantaneous thing where he just lost it?
btw guys, my youngest started school today, bear with me if im a little snappy today
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Iām all for a bit of craic but your GAA slant on this thing is becoming very boring very quickly
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Please tell me you havenāt posted a pic of it on Social Media. Hope all goes well today buddy
huh?
my point was that he was just a regular GGA man and on the day of the tragedy acted normally so could something have triggered his breakdown later?
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ive sent a photo to everyone in the TFK clique
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If this fella had somehow survived after the attack, do you think he would have been convicted of straight up murder ?
I think there would have been a witch hunt by the public.
if the money was used wisely for the likes of early interventions and screening etc then it would be money well spent. weāre seeing the level of suicides and cases being too far gone because there isnāt a significant amount of early interventions. There will always be some who fall through the gaps/buck the system but if we can help a larger number than we are now and avoid some tragedies wouldnāt it be money well spent ?
+1. Bit beyond depression or issues to stab your 3 sons and wife to death.
This poor chap was not on the radar of any services and outwardly did not have any particular financial issues. Active member of the community, well regarded.
Iām not sure any amount of funding would have prevented whatever caused this horror.
Is this sort of thing particularly common in Ireland or the same elsewhere?