2015 All Ireland Football Championship - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT STOP

what shame? he was gloating about it on twitter that evening, he hadnt an ounce of remorse or shame about it, and was revelling in what happened.

But apart from that, I do agree with the rest. He is being given an 8 week suspension because the referee was a useless cunt. I really dont agree with the suspension. I think if they are reporting it like this, get the wind up him and others, then that may be enough of a message for future incidents. If the ref saw it in the game, he gets a yellow card. But as it stands, because the referee didnt see it, he is getting a suspension akin to kicking the head off someone in the game.

The incident in question being the simulation not the act of raising the hand and the subsequent collapse. He saw a player lift a hand and another drop as if shot, all while glancing to his notebook. While I detest the cunt, he made an assumption, it’s not really his fault the absolutely show put on by McCann.

Nobody should be sent off on an assumption.
If he was unsure he had plenty of officials to consult with.

He is nearly as culpable in this as McCann in my opinion.

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That’s a clamping.

You won’t hear any objections from me, he is an utter cunt of a ref and I wouldn’t allow him referee football in Kilkenny. But McCann mugged him off good and proper at the same time.

well if he continues to make referring decisions based on assumptions then he will continue to get mugged off.

He’s absolutely hated by any number of inter county footballers. Portlaoise despise him for mugging them off against KIB’s.

Can’t wait to see who gets to referee the semi final :popcorn:

+1

Anyone who can legislate on making a decision on an assumption is deluded. Reminds me of the time Willie Gollum awarded the huns a penalty with his back turned to the incident where there had been no contact.

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I’m not on your side either by the way. McCann is absolute disgrace and I would have no problem with him getting a suspension. 8 weeks seems harsh but if it helped put a stop to this kind of bolloxing then I’d support it.

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LOLZ, now totti, that’s a clamping.

I’ve said this before what I’d do is implement some sort of review committee sitting every Monday and reviewing incidents from games (maybe this happens already but diving is outside their remit). If someone is found to have dived then they should be handed a 2 game ban. But this sort of action should be well publicized in an advance of a new season and not implemented in an ad-hoc fashion in response to a media up-roar.

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I’d have no problem with an 8 weeknow suspension either if there was precedent there and it was used across the board rather than a jumped up charge to hit a team who are being unfairly vilified by the Southern media.

But that’s not the case, is it?

So just because one case isn’t punished, any further incidents should be left unpunished?

I’d agree there is a sense that this is a knee jerk reaction but at the same time, like most things, there comes a tipping point and this is it.

I think assumption is the wrong word in this context. Ref only sees the incident in real time from their vantage point of the incident, pretty much every decision a ref makes is based on their perception of the incident. He can only go off what he perceived to see.

While he mightn’t have had the best view he would have seen a hand make contact with the Tyrone players head and the player go down injured. He can then only act on what he has perceived to have happened as opposed assumed happened

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Open to correction but I think it would be the first time in 130 years of GGA that a player would have been retrospectively banned for simulation or feigning/exaggerating injury.

McCann was a disgrace but the likes of O’Mahony and shields to name just two were equally as bad.

I reckon Tyrone have a good chance of succeeding with any appeal as it’s unchartered territory and there is bound to be a loophole or technicality somewhere along the line to exploit.

The only good thing to come out of all this is that refs and other match officials will be eagle eyed for any of this carry on for the remainder of the year so if anyone from any of the remaining four counties acts the cunt - mouthing off, diving, cheating, feigning injury - hopefully they’ll be punished on the field of play and ridiculed publicly.

They should be bringing in rules in the aftermath of an event they haven’t already legislated for. They didn’t so they don’t have a leg to stand on. If this was a player from Mayo, Dublin or Kerry then there would be no clamour from the media and no ban, that is quite easy to gather.

I don’t think he saw any contact.
He was writing in his notebook at the time. From the footage it looks like he glanced up when he heard the roar, saw a hand in the air, a player hitting the deck and assumed he had hit him.

Is the punishment a yellow card? I think that’s insufficient to be a real deterrent. Plus I think it needs retrospective reviews. GAA referees won’t be capable of making the right call on the spot.

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Until the CCCC make a statement I’ll believe nothing of this more than more circling of the wagons and siege creating by Tyrone. It would be my belief that the most that will happen is McCann to be called into from of the CCCC to explain his side of the incident. To be that would be plenty, for now.

You don’t base on assumption, pal. You ref on perception and what you perceive/interpret from your view of the incident