They were up against nothing fella. Just like Donegal.
Dublin will suffocate them
You typed that previous post in a pub, mate?
Yes, mate. I locked myself into a toilet cublicle to compose it because I felt @ciarancareyshurlingarmy deserved the courtesy of a full and frank response.
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Ta i do. And this Tyrone system is quite different to recent versions. As they were going nowhere they had to get more attacking. But Dublin will make them pay for that.
To not be able to size up who they were against is astonishing from you and bandage. Tyrone have improved, no doubt about that.
But they have played muck, or at least teams performing like muck. Ok some of that credit has to go to tyrone themselves but armagh and donegal pyt nothibg in front of the counter and played into their hands and reacted way too late on the line.
This year has shown more than ever that managers need to be up high watching the game.
Gallagher, OāNeill and McGeeney all missed glaring tactical issues in big games that were visable from the stand. Cork did the same in both minor and senior to Donegal last year, it was embarrassing.
The game has gotten even more tactical so you have to act like a tactical coach and not a cheerleader on the sideline, because thats all it is
Good report. Thanks
I guess they will look to contain dublin. Is their full line plus cavanagh tight enough to hold the dub forwards inside?
On the face of it from tv they have more than Cavanagh back. They look like they have 2 sweepers mist of the time.
Tyrone have played better teams than Dublin have played.
There are loads of examples of Dublin being shut down into a less than potent force by poorer teams, some of them much poorer teams, than the current Tyrone team.
Donegal, Derry, Carlow and poorer Tyrone teams. Mayo were able to shut Dublin down with a basic enough sweeper system in last yearās final.
Tyrones is basic enough. Its large numbers back and then attack. Formations upfront and all that are fine for a while, but they wonāt out do a team like dublin who are coached to be decision makers, not robots.
There are fundamental differences between the teams.
And Dublin have won 4/6 AIās.
So who the fuck shut them out? Carlow? For real? Who won and what was the score?
Your anti @Nembo_Kid bias affects your reading of this. Iāve no idea how this will play out but I expect that Tyrone will be savage and smother the shit out of Dublin and that the game will be won or lost on the refereeās interpretation of fouls. Basically, if Tyrone go incredibly defensive that the ref will card ĆØ not of them early that the Dubās will have too my subs.
Guys, Jonny Cooper? Any time I see Dublin in the flesh I go away despising that little prick. Heās such a fucking cunt.
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So? Kerry had won 4/6 All-Irelands before 2010 and Down wiped the floor with them.
Tyrone have gone seven championship matches in Croke Park without conceding a goal or looking like conceding a goal.
There are little things about Dublin that I think are off.
I donāt think Cian OāSullivan is as good as he was, for instance. Philly McMahon isnāt playing at the level he was.
Con OāCallaghan struggled today and will probably not be suited to Tyrone.
Bernard Brogan was impressive against Kildare but has struggled against Kerry and Mayo in big games of late.
Connolly has missed the last three games and might not be at the level required when he returns.
I expect Tyrone to produce a challenge as physical as Mayo did last year, but more potent, more frustrating, more defensively sound and less prone to stupid mistakes than Mayo.
I doubt there will be more than two points in it either way at the end but I could see Tyrone winning it something like 0-14 to 0-13.
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I said somewhere here during the league that I fancied Tyrone to go all the way this year and they have done nothing so far to change my mind, they have built their entire gameplan to beat this Dublin side and they look ready to execute a plan which involves both matching the Dubs fitness levels and having a strong bench,Cavanagh as the sweeper is key for them and how they counter attack from the HB line, they have an excellent spread of scorers all over the pitch and the defence is outstanding. Any poor weather on the day will be a huge bonus but either way I see Tyrone stifling Dublin and winning by something like 1-15 to 16pts.
Snap! just read your post after I finished my own.
Sure he isnāt even from tyrone.
I actually think they have good players and counld be a better team. Harte, while doing a good job, is holding them back. Something i believ nemo indicated himself way back.
I am fundamantally looking at how they play and the way teams have vactated the middle of the pitch because of their deepness. And they do not know what to do with it.
But donegal were clearly a busted flush, Diwn are extremely average and although Atmagh have improved out of sight to where they wrlere they were either back to type (and it was more Kildare were shite) or they were fatigued. Their discipline both in playing a structure and actual discipline was poor.
I really like the look of a couple of the young tyrone forwards, Mulgrew looks class. But this is different gravy.
Dublin were frighteningly efficient today. They have really improved defensively quickly.
I thought Mulgrew had a good Ulster Final and was surprised he didnāt start today. Was he an injury doubt? At the same time the game was totally and utterly finished when he came on today.
Dublin werenāt frighteningly efficient. They scored 1-19. Itās alright but not a massive score for the amount of possession and shots they had.
In terms of conventional defence Dublin had to do basically nothing. Monaghan continually hit 40 or 50 yard Hail Mary balls into two isolated full forwards.
Where Dublin destroyed Monaghan was in how difficult they made it to go through them after the kickout. Thatās athleticism, speed of thought and anticipation.
Tyroneās level of all those, both in a defensive sense and in a team attacking sense is up there with Dublinās.
Where Dublin hold the aces is in the quality of their individual forwards compared to Tyroneās. But that can be negated.
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While they are playing well I donāt have the same confidence in Mannion and Rock as I would have had in the Brogans and Flynn in their hay day. Eric Lowndes spent a good bit of time in the forwards today and he isnāt going to scare many defences.
I can see why people would have that opinion. He gets himself involved unnecessarily. Yesterday being a prime example. From a Dublin point of view we are better with him in the team. He is fast, tight and very comfortable on the ball.
Heās a tramp. Iām lead to believe that incident he was involved in where he was stabbed wasnāt as cut and dried as he maintained.
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