Klopp won one league title. You simply canât compare him to Wenger or Ferguson.
I doubt there was five people at Arsenal when Wenger joined that were still there when he left.
Ferguson even less.
Klopp won one league title. You simply canât compare him to Wenger or Ferguson.
I doubt there was five people at Arsenal when Wenger joined that were still there when he left.
Ferguson even less.
Itâs generally excepted from 2009 onwards man United were in a decline under Ferguson.
He still managed two league titles and a champions league final despite being in Decline.
Wenger it was far more pronounced. Arsenal had bad players and struggled to compete while paying for the stadium.
Itâs early days yet but it just looks like Liverpool were under performing under klopp and could have improved a lot with him leaving.
There was a strong push for Wenger out though. It was a meme at the time. He hadnât won the league in 14 years before his departure. Taking over a team whoâd finished 6th and taking them to 5th and a Europa League final wasnât a disaster by Emery at all. Very unfair by the media to be painting his time in charge as similar to that of David Moyes at Man Utd or Souness at Liverpool. He didnât inherit a winning team.
Emery was one manager too soon at Arsenal. Heâs been fantastic at Villa on a much smaller budget than others.
Moyes was a bad choice but it was always going to be a poisoned chalice.
The only man they should have appointed was Jose. Heâd have the ego to get a bit out of the players and it would have given the board 2-3 years to find the next candidate.
Heâll be near the top of the list for the United job if it comes to it. I think I heard Graham Hunter say once he doesnât sign the players and is always happy to work with what he has once theyâre a certain standard technically. He doesnât have a defined style of play apparently.
What fucking planet do you live on? Who in the name of Jesus goes around having discussions on the contrast between the Emery and Wenger eras
quite frequently if you donât mind
Arsenal Twitter, theyâre mental
Jesus I seem to get under your skin awful easily. The Wenger succession has often been discussed in recent months when TV/radio analysts are discussing Slot taking over from Klopp. You seem to have pent up anger but Iâd bet youâre a Yanited Footix behind it all.
He was there (Wenger) for 22 years ffs, 27 for Fergie
Thatâs my point.
Steve Bould and Arsenalâs version of Kath in reception.
I donât get your point so
Bournemouth manager was slated for playing similarly last year early doors but he persisted and his team are going very well.
Way to early to be calling for his head
Arsenal are a great Football Club.
I love the stories of Ken Friar and David Miles going from kicking a ball around the old Highbury Stadium to becoming Club Secretary and Senior Executives.
How many leagues and European cups did fergie win in his first 8 years as a true comparison?
Not sure but Iâm fairly sure the Liverpool fans had all English teams banned from European football for his first four years.
Would he have qualified?
None.
11th
2nd
11th
13th
In the first 4 seasons of Fergusonâs reign, so no although under the current rules they wouldâve qualified for the champions league in his second season. An average of 9th position over the 4 years
Kloppâs first 4 seasons were
8th
4th
4th
2nd
An average of 4.5th position