Sweet jebus did MyBoyBlue actually defend Cork!
absolute cockwash glas
the sending off had jackshite to do with the following
- numerous missed scoreable frees by Dublin in the 2nd half
- the fact that an under 12 full back line would have provided better protection to Gary Maguire for the goal Pat Horgan mugged Dublin for
- Dublin had no similar forward to mug Cork like Horgan did them
- Dublin forward foulded the ball in a scoreable position and Nash turned it over to get a point for Cork at a crucial stage
As for the sending off - well many predicted it was going to happen. Player and mgt could have avoided it.
Plus as a Limerick man you should know that a sending off doesn’t equal defeat. Wexford beat ye with 14 in 1996
[QUOTE=“kerry1891, post: 985985, member: 1379”]absolute cockwash glas
the sending off had jackshite to do with the following
- numerous missed scoreable frees by Dublin in the 2nd half
- the fact that an under 12 full back line would have provided better protection to Gary Maguire for the goal Pat Horgan mugged Dublin for
- Dublin had no similar forward to mug Cork like Horgan did them
- Dublin forward foulded the ball in a scoreable position and Nash turned it over to get a point for Cork at a crucial stage
As for the sending off - well many predicted it was going to happen. Player and mgt could have avoided it.
Plus as a Limerick man you should know that a sending off doesn’t equal defeat. Wexford beat ye with 14 in 1996[/QUOTE]
The game of hurling has evolved completely in the last 10-15 years with the pace and movement coming on light years,getting a man sent off now is twice as bad as back then.
Dublin are using same tactics now as Clare did in 04 under Dalo. Not that much evolution. Clare’s short passing and support play not that dissimilar to Cork in 04-06.
Kilkenny still create space, take their men on and win their own ball.
96 was gas though. Gary Kirby’s finger. Couldn’t take frees. Oh wait. He did. Wexford only conceded the one.
Come on Wexford.
[QUOTE=“Appendage, post: 986042, member: 11”]Dublin are using same tactics now as Clare did in 04 under Dalo. Not that much evolution. Clare’s short passing and support play not that dissimilar to Cork in 04-06.
Kilkenny still create space, take their men on and win their own ball.
96 was gas though. Gary Kirby’s finger. Couldn’t take frees. Oh wait. He did. Wexford only conceded the one.
Come on Wexford.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=“kerry1891, post: 985985, member: 1379”]absolute cockwash glas
the sending off had jackshite to do with the following
- numerous missed scoreable frees by Dublin in the 2nd half
- the fact that an under 12 full back line would have provided better protection to Gary Maguire for the goal Pat Horgan mugged Dublin for
- Dublin had no similar forward to mug Cork like Horgan did them
- Dublin forward foulded the ball in a scoreable position and Nash turned it over to get a point for Cork at a crucial stage
As for the sending off - well many predicted it was going to happen. Player and mgt could have avoided it.
Plus as a Limerick man you should know that a sending off doesn’t equal defeat. Wexford beat ye with 14 in 1996[/QUOTE]
Agree to disagree so. More than half the people I’ve talked to agree with me on this so it’s by no means definitive.
As pointed out to you earlier going a man down is a lot worse in today’s game than in 96 or even ten years ago. At the time of the sending off Dublin were increasingly on top and cork struggling with their sweeper system. You don’t think being a man down contributed to any of dublin a problems you highlighted?
Sending off could have been avoided? Yeah, sure. But was it wrong? Yes.
IMO, minus the sending off Dublin would have gone on to close out that game. Dublin were also the form team in the championship up to that point, far more impressive than Cork. Of course that is completely overshadowed by the AI final for most people, which is fair enough too.
[QUOTE=“Appendage, post: 986042, member: 11”]Dublin are using same tactics now as Clare did in 04 under Dalo. Not that much evolution. Clare’s short passing and support play not that dissimilar to Cork in 04-06.
Kilkenny still create space, take their men on and win their own ball.
96 was gas though. Gary Kirby’s finger. Couldn’t take frees. Oh wait. He did. Wexford only conceded the one.
Come on Wexford.[/QUOTE]
Clare with 13 holding on for the draw and coming behind to draw v the Wexicans was rather remarkable then!
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 986052, member: 1533”]Agree to disagree so. More than half the people I’ve talked to agree with me on this so it’s by no means definitive.
As pointed out to you earlier going a man down is a lot worse in today’s game than in 96 or even ten years ago. At the time of the sending off Dublin were increasingly on top and cork struggling with their sweeper system. You don’t think being a man down contributed to any of dublin a problems you highlighted?
Sending off could have been avoided? Yeah, sure. But was it wrong? Yes.
IMO, minus the sending off Dublin would have gone on to close out that game. Dublin were also the form team in the championship up to that point, far more impressive than Cork. Of course that is completely overshadowed by the AI final for most people, which is fair enough too.[/QUOTE]
The problems I highlighted had little or nothing to do with the sending off. Look Dublin might have closed it out but I am far from convinced. I give them a right chance v Tipp btw. Cant be as septic as they looked v Kilkenny and surely Daly will have a better game plan this time
In fairness it was. Sending offs are huge in the modern game. They are arguably as big an impact as the going down to ten men in soccer. How many games have we seen turned on their head in recent years with a sending off?
In all the shit talk about Ryan O Dwyer being sent off ( he deserved to go ), people forget that Rushe was damn lucky not to see red too.
In short, Cork WERE the 2nd best team last year.
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 986052, member: 1533”]Agree to disagree so. More than half the people I’ve talked to agree with me on this so it’s by no means definitive.
As pointed out to you earlier going a man down is a lot worse in today’s game than in 96 or even ten years ago. At the time of the sending off Dublin were increasingly on top and cork struggling with their sweeper system. You don’t think being a man down contributed to any of dublin a problems you highlighted?
Sending off could have been avoided? Yeah, sure. But was it wrong? Yes.
IMO, minus the sending off Dublin would have gone on to close out that game. Dublin were also the form team in the championship up to that point, far more impressive than Cork. Of course that is completely overshadowed by the AI final for most people, which is fair enough too.[/QUOTE]
Im not addressing this post because i have dealt with posts like this a thousand times on other sites but i will ask you.Did the Patrick Horgan sending off impact on last years munster final?
Dublin are better then limerick. ???
Freakishly good Clare u-21 team. Poor game overall, the pitch didn’t look great and it was so one-sided it was never going to make for a decent game. Clare -6 at evens was money for jam. Cork were so dire.
Most enjoyable aspect was looking at the sour puss on that attention seeking cunt with the sombrero behind the goal as the avalanche of points went over.
A few other points
- Colm Galvin is class
- How bad must Waterford have been, especially when - on paper - they had a strong enough u-21 team this year.
- Podge Collins has a face you’d never tire of smacking.
[QUOTE=“Beautiful City, post: 986132, member: 1616”]Im not addressing this post because i have dealt with posts like this a thousand times on other sites but i will ask you.Did the Patrick Horgan sending off impact on last years munster final?[/QUOTE]welcome to the big leagues 
shove your 193 all irelands won at all levels of tiddlywinks up your fucking bollix
[SIZE=4]1997 - All Ireland U21 Hurling Championship - Cork[/SIZE]
D. Óg Cusack, J. Browne; D. O?Sullivan, W. Sherlock, D. Barrett, D. Murphy (capt.), S. Óg hAilpin, P Ryan, A. Walsh, B. O?Driscoll, T. McCarthy, M. O?Connell, J. O?Flynn, D. Ronan, J. Deane. Subs: S. O?Farrell for O?Flynn, B. Coleman for McCarthy.
[SIZE=4]1998 - All Ireland U21 Hurling Championship - Cork[/SIZE]
D. Óg Cusack, M. Prendergast, D. O?Sullivan, W. Sherlock, D. Barrett, D. Murphy (capt.), S. Óg Ó hAilpin, A. Walsh, L. Mannix, N. Ronan, T. McCarthy, M. O?Connell, B. O?Keeffe, S. O?Farrell, J. Deane. Subs: J. Anderson for Mannix, B. O?Connor for O?Farrell.
These are the best U21 teams I have seen.
How is U-21 big leagues? It’s an incidental competition to blood players. Clare showed it doesn’t translate to the Real Deal this year.
The hurling has been the most entertaining of all the championships for the last 4 or 5 years in either code bar last year’s senior championship anyway.
the came up to Ennis and we walked all over the cunts, you can never beat Cork enough