American Mass Shootings / Stabbings / Car Crashes/bridge collapses

And I thought dealing with my 13 year old was tough going. Christ I’d take her tantrums over this shit 7 days a week.

I’m living in my late grandmother’s house if you must know, mate

What I do involves human empathy, sonething you’d know fuck all about, except when you extend it to white supremacist terrorists when you whitewash the motives for their atrocities

That’s the difference between you and me, I actually have morals and actually have real things I believe in that are worth arguing for - you have nothing except an insane TV and internet-driven far right rabbit hole which rejects fact, rejects context, rejects reality full stop, demonises and vilifies whole groups of people based on their non-chosen identity and seeks to defend outright some of the most abhorrent behaviour known to human beings

Why don’t you comment yourself instead of just throwing a tantrum like a child?

Have you got a brain or a tongue in your head?

Do you have opinions or are you just a troll?

I had you down as a lad drawing the dole and playing the PlayStation all day.

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This is all part of God’s plan.

Drawin the dole or on the playstation?

How many times have you been to America?

He’s read about it on twitter.

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The same amount of times as @backinatracksuit insulted your parents and the same amount of times you’ve held a hurley - zero

And yet I’m still infinitely more knowledgable about US politics than anybody here

And that really annoys people, which is great

If you’ve never been to America just shut the fuck up about talking about their politics.

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I won’t, but given that your parents were never insulted here and you just made the whole thing up because you’re a Walter Mitty fantasist, it would be a good job if you’d shut up about something that never happened

The all fucking day part

Liam Hogan is essential reading

He’d be beyond the pea brained understanding of white supremacist nut jobs like @anon7035031

ISIS doesn’t have its own private mainstream media network spouting Orwellian propaganda

White supremacy does - it has loads of them

But nothing to worry about there, say the white supremacists

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/you-dont-need-read-el-paso-killers-manifesto-just-turn-fox-news

You don’t need to read the El Paso killer’s manifesto. Just turn on Fox News.

WRITTEN BY MATT GERTZ

PUBLISHED 08/05/19 10:40 AM EDT

Shortly after a gunman murdered 20 people in a Walmart in El Paso, TX, on Saturday, the hashtag “#whitesupremacistterrorism” began trending on Twitter. The “terrorism” portion of that epithet references the alleged shooter’s apparent intent of “coercing and intimidating a civilian population” with the massacre. The suspect is described as a “white supremacist” because of his ideological rationale for carrying out the act, as described in a manifesto posted to the web forum 8chan shortly before the attack.

The alleged killer wrote in the document that he wanted “to exact revenge against ‘the Hispanic invasion of Texas,’ to forestall what he called ‘cultural and ethnic replacement,’ and to ‘reclaim my country from destruction,’” echoing the perpetrators of similar mass shootings, as National Review’s editors noted in denouncing him.

Those ideas, once again drenched in blood, were at one time largely restricted to fringe forums populated by hardcore white supremacists and conspiracy theorists. But in recent years, you could have easily heard them recited while watching a random night of Fox News’ prime-time lineup.

Fox personalities have worked to mainstream the racist conspiracy theory that non-white immigrants threaten to “replace” white American populations. Hosts Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham, whose shows regularly revolve around the purported dangers immigration poses to the cultural fabric, have been particularly taken with that argument, and they are not subtle in its promotion.

“Your views on immigration will have zero impact and zero influence on a House dominated by Democrats who want to replace you, the American voters, with newly amnestied citizens and an ever increasing number of chain migrants,” Ingraham told her audience shortly before the 2018 midterms.

“It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s happening in public,” Carlson has argued. “[Democrats’] political success does not depend on good policies, but on demographic replacement, and they’ll do anything to make sure it happens.”

Carlson is particularly beloved by white nationalists, who believe he “is making the white nationalist talking points better than they have,” as the son of the founder of hate website Stormfront put it in March. The Fox host regularly warns of the dire consequences immigration poses to the country. He has said that immigration “is absolutely destroying America” and will“change this country completely and forever”; argued that “we’re being invaded” by migrants in a way that could trigger a national “collapse”; and claimed that “we are importing people from places whose values are simply antithetical to ours,” putting the nation’s ability to “survive” at risk.

The description of migration across the southern border as an “invasion” has become so commonon Fox that it hardly warrants mention at this point. That is simply the language the network’s personalities – even its purported “straight news” anchors – use to describe migrants, often as Fox airs B-roll of columns of Hispanic men marching north.

Though the alleged shooter’s ideas seem to echo what Fox airs every night, the language in his manifesto differs from the network’s in one small way: Its references to race are explicit, while Fox’s commentators often talk around that. But this is largely a distinction between text and subtext. The invaders who Fox hosts keeps warning might destroy the country through demographic replacement are Black and brown, as both the hosts and their audience know.

The network appears deeply committed to airing talking points previously confined to the fever swamps. Their use has continued even as white supremacists enact mass murders, and Fox hasdefended Carlson and Ingraham from advertiser boycotts triggered by their bigoted language on immigration.

Fox’s use of this rhetoric of demographic replacement and migrant invasion has not occurred in a vacuum. It has been mirrored by Republican politicians, including President Donald Trump, who similarly deploy those racist tropes. That’s no coincidence – both Fox and the GOP depend on riling people up with racist appeals for their success. Their behavior won’t change unless their incentives change.

The problem you and others have is that you don’t read, full stop, hence why your only contributions here are pathetic trolling attempts

The point is that I actually read and listen to what people who are actually affected by bigotry say, because I can by definition never walk in their footsteps because of who I am - somebody who has never been nor ever will be the victim of that sort of bigotry

It seems few others here actually understand that, never mind do it

Are you growing any chillis this year sid?

I thought you classed yourself as some sort of top top debater… All you seem to doing is spamming the thread posting other peoples tweets and copying and pasting reams of articles that reaffirm your point of view. You seem like a very very angry individual. Its a pain in the hole having to skim by your vitriolic posts and it just makes it a waste of time for anyone to attempt any sort of discussion.

Why do you think somebody would be angry at white supremacist terrorism which is encouraged at every turn by a racist bigot of a US president

Work it out

What is certainly a pain in the hole having to read your non-contributions, that’s all you’ve ever been capable of, run off now to RT’s website to get your latest propaganda fix there like a good lad

Speaking as a friend sid, you do seem a wee bit manic this evening.

If only you were as concerned about the North of Ireland and its on your door step. These nut jobs in America seem to do it for you, each to their own.