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Are you high? I said letting in large populations of Muslims without some way of filtering out the radicals is madness, and not providing education and integration to those that do enter is asking for problems down the road.

Great. Let in immigrants, provide education. Agree.

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People vote against their interests all the time.

You do understand this, yes?

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Did it ever occur to you that they might have voted in their own interests?

That’s the trick.

Make them think that.

Republicans are good at doing at that.

Jews voted for Hitler. Was that in their own interests?

If that happened, why do you have a problem comprehending that people might vote against their own interests anywhere else?

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… and we’re back to Hitler again :disappointed:

As long as the left keeps bleating about Hitler and fascists they will continue the slide into irrelevance.
You would think they would have learned something from HRC’s deplorables comment, but unfortunately they are doubling down on the stupid.

I asked a perfectly reasonable question which you didn’t answer.

You appear to have a problem with the idea that people might vote against their own interests.

I cited the most extreme example of a politician being able to persuade people to vote for him, even though it was directly against their interests.

Which proves beyond any doubt, that if you’re a good enough con man, people will vote for you even if it works against their own interests.

It isn’t a difficult concept to understand at all.

And the United States over numerous decades is further proof of it.

A truly terrible analysis.

Hitler and the Nazis had very little support from any quarter prior to the ravages of the Great Depression, which impacted Germany much more than any other European country. He received 3.0% of the vote in 1926 and 2.6% in 1928, when the German economy was in relatively bad shape after the reparations paid for WW1. It wasn’t Jews that caused the jump to 34% in 1932 and 44% in 1934.

Where is your evidence that Jews voted in any significant number for the Nazi party?.

It’s a simple question I asked you.

For you to be right, the number of Jews who voted for Hitler would have to be 0.

Please explain the existence of this group, so.

The fact is, Jews voted for Hitler.

And the fact is, people vote against their interests all the time.

Occasionally deliberately, usually unwittingly.

I’m not sure what this has to do with the topic of the thread, but given that you mention it, you’ll be surprised to find Sweden consistently comes out top in studies of migrant integration.

Opinions like yours are what happen you read nonsense that feeds your confirmation bias.

2007:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7043878.stm

2011:

2015:
http://migrantreport.org/sweden-portugal-lead-integration-policy/

I never said zero Jews voted for the Nazis, undoubtedly a small number did (the circulation of the group you posted was 6,000 ffs, coincidentally about the average estimate of white supremacists in the US ). As always, you are missing the big picture.

There is little or no actual evidence for antisemitism among conservatives in the US. Do you see evidence for example on US streets or campuses of white supremacist rallies and beating down minority students? The only fascist behavior is from the left, shutting down events featuring speakers they oppose, including the recent violence on the Berkeley campus.

The only fascism on display in America is from the left.

Summary:

Every “point” made by Donald Trump, @anon7035031 and other ill-informed right wing commentators is a load of bollocks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/20/trump-asked-people-to-look-at-whats-happening-in-sweden-heres-whats-happening-there/?utm_term=.2fb5d456a46a

There you go. Jews voted for Hitler.

And people routinely vote against their own interests everywhere.

I see evidence of it in the rhetoric of Mr. Trump, in rallies, in anti-semitic graffiti and in the large amount of anti-semitic abuse online.

In fact as I speak CNN is running a report on anti-semitism in the US, which featured this statement made today:

https://www.facebook.com/AnneFrankCenterforMutualRespect/posts/10155151871429040

[quote]
MR. PRESIDENT, YOUR TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE ACKNOWLEGMENT OF #Antisemitism TODAY IS NOT ENOUGH.
Statement of Steven Goldstein, Executive Director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, on President Trump’s acknowledgment of Antisemitism today:
“The President’s sudden acknowledgement is a Band-Aid on the cancer of Antisemitism that has infected his own Administration. His statement today is a pathetic asterisk of condescension after weeks in which he and his staff have committed grotesque acts and omissions reflecting Antisemitism, yet day after day have refused to apologize and correct the record. Make no mistake: The Antisemitism coming out of this Administration is the worst we have ever seen from any Administration. The White House repeatedly refused to mention Jews in its Holocaust remembrance, and had the audacity to take offense when the world pointed out the ramifications of Holocaust denial. And it was only yesterday, President’s Day, that Jewish Community Centers across the nation received bomb threats, and the President said absolutely nothing. When President Trump responds to Antisemitism proactively and in real time, and without pleas and pressure, that’s when we’ll be able to say this President has turned a corner. This is not that moment.” [/quote]

Right. :grin:

Yawn.

What has Trump said publically that is antisemetic?

Commemorating the holocaust is de facto commemorating Jews killed by the Nazis as that’s the understanding people have of the word holocaust. We should remember all 60M who died in WWII, especially those who died in the fight to defeat the Nazis, not just in Germany.

The only antisemetic president in recent US history was Obama who broke with the tradition of supporting the state of Israel. Jews in the US and Israel hated Obama but couldn’t say so publicaly as all opposition to Obama was labeled racist.

There will always be idiots who write graffiti and post hate online. Plenty of it from the left currently. The level of injury caused doesn’t rise to the level of assaulting people though, which happened in Berkeley a few ago.

How many Jews or any minority for that matter have been assaulted since Trump was elected?

And you resort to the most cliched Hasbara 101 tactic around, mendaciously calling somebody anti-semitic because you say “he didn’t support Israel” (Obama did support Israel, by the way).

You do realise that not supporting Israel is not anti-semitic, right? Again, like so many points that have to be explained to you, this is a very basic one.

Trump has disassociated himself from anti-semitism in the way he disassociated himself from David Duke, ie. in an extremely unconvincing manner, which was clearly designed to give the air of plausible deniability while in reality giving succour to bigots. This is what all demagogues do.

Trump associates with the likes of Alex Jones who promotes anti-Jewish conspiracy theories especially in relation to the financial system and corruption and associates with this sort of nonsense. He even put a star of David in one of his tweets with the words “Hillary - most corrupt candidate ever” before deleting it, because he knew full well what the overtones of it were.

There have been 69 bomb threats against Jewish cultural centres in the last month. When Trump was questioned about this at his surreal press conference last week, he refused to answer the question, ridiculed the questioner, a Jew, and went off in a self-serving tangent of nonsense.

I don’t know how many Jews have been assaulted since Trump was elected. That isn’t the point. They don’t have to have been assaulted for there to be widespread anti-semitic abuse.

And there has never been a president whose victory has provoked such widespread anti-semitic abuse.

Didn’t Ivanka convert to Judaism? Would that not fly in the face of Donald’s supposed anti-Semitism?

It’s irrelevant, given that Ivanka is a different person.

What about Trump’s ridiculous attitude to climate change? It’s going to be one of the biggest factors driving immigration over the next 50 -100 years, immigration being something he is against, yet he is throwing more petrol on the fire that will lead to increased immigration. What a dope.

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Convenient that. Her Jewish husband being a senior Trump advisor doesn’t really suit your narrative either.

The bottom half of the US will be a desert at that stage so the Mexicans will have their work cut out

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