Another one of those fucking Ulster football threads - don't let the first post fool you

11 of the last 24 quarter finalists have been Ulster teams. They are a long way the best around at the minute. It’s not even close.

The league is meaningless.

If you are good enough you will win.

And thats the approach they should take. In fairness its Tyrones approach.

That’s the reality of it in it’s current structure. Teams just have to get up and on with it but the likes of Mayo, Kerry and Dublin are supremely advantaged by the current structure, a few handy games for them into the QF, no pressure there, no need to have be at their best for four months or the year of having to risk players carrying injuries and so forth.

The fact is if you come from Ulster you have to be so much better than everybody else to win, no the case with the other three provinces.

They are handy games because they are good teams. Bottom line.

Tyrone were easily beating teams in the 00’s in ulster too because they were very good. Thats all it is.

Easily beating the teams in Ulster in the 00s?

What sort of revisionist baloney is that?

In 2003 they had to go to replays with Derry and Down.

In 2004 they were beaten by Donegal

In 2005 they were beaten by Armagh and had to go to a replay with Cavan.

In 2006 they were beaten by Derry.

In 2007 they won Ulster with a 1 point win against Fermanagh and 2 point win over Monaghan in the final

In 2008 they were beaten by Down after a replay.

And that’s just a sample of their peak years 2003-2008

There’s a big difference between the quality of teams and their mindsets in Provincial Championship in Ulster than the cannon fodder in the other provinces.

How many of those 11 won their QF, alot of the Ulster teams are good but just not at the level of top 4 or even AI winners. Of those 11 Quarter Finalists only Donegal x2 made it to the final.

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Yes.

I’ll take that on board but the other provinces only have one team and it’s all nicely set up for them to come into the quarter finals in the best possible shape, with the way the draw was this year and big imbalance in the A and B side of the qualifiers Dublin and Kerry had nice handy quarter finals.

The Ulster Council won’t even do anything to redress imbalances.
Donegal were rewarded for winning the AI by having to play in the preliminary round in Ulster. Surely they should have been seeded to avoid that.

Why should they be seeded?

The imbalance does not exist in Ulster - it exists outside it. This is not an Ulster Council problem, they have the best and most competitive province in the game, if the other provincial councils were doing their job as well there wouldn’t be such a problem in the first place.

Donegal should not have been in the preliminary round of the Ulster Championship.
If you win Ulster you should be guaranteed a qf match the following year, wouldn’t be a major change and would reward a team at the same time.
Not sure what you mean about other provincial councils doing their job?

You shouldn’t.

Why do you want to change the only functioning province in the game?

The change that needs to happen is outside the confines of Ulster, what happens in the likes of Munster and Leinster is to preserve the interests of their big teams. To me it would seem that they have undue influence there.

Who started this again? Ye cunt. :slight_smile:

Donegal the only Ulster team to reach the AI Final since Down in 2010 would suggest that the Ulster Championship while competitive, lacks the quality teams to reach the top accolade.

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Look just forget give sam to an Ulster county each year. Obviously they are way too good for every other team in the country.

History and the roll of honour suggests otherwise.

Yeah but none of that matters to @Nembo_Kid. :slight_smile:

How many counties have won the ultra competitive Ulster Championship in the last 5 years?

Must be more than in the other provinces surely?

Ulster have had four different finalists in the past 12 years, that’s the same amount as all the other provinces combined in that time period.

Why 12 years?