Arab Protests

[Watch_The_Break]

The poor Syrians aren’t getting much of a look in while the Olympics are on.

[mickee321]

@mickee321

Braz,
you present what you said pretty well and i agree with most of your points,
the link below ( data not verified) is a list of all US aid from 2001-2006
http://www.vaughns-1…foreign-aid.htm
as you can see one third of all US aid goes to Israel and Egypt, so now based on this precedent i wonder who controls the “election” of the next Egyptain governement ?? http://www.thefreekick.com/board/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif
The Obama admisntration have made it very clear to Egypt that “political stability” is necessary to ensure they continue to get this level of support, you can be damn sure that the Egyptian military will very soon have a nce little junta set up in Cairo, there will be elections but TBH it dosent really matter, the army played a blinder during the 18 day riots by refusing to really committ to a side , they knew that the rioters were so disorganised that they coulld not present a political alternative so they poised themselves to take over, Im quite sure Omar Suleiman is giving guarantees that we see a quick return to stability, so much so that he Egyptian military have wasted no time this week in continuing to build their wall at Rafah between Gaza and Egypt.
the romantic notion that the Egyptians will elect some governement who will give 2 fingers to the US aid is folly, 40% of the population of 80 million survive on < 2 USD / per, i dont think that cutting off aid is an option.
someone made the point to me that all these uprisongs in the Magrheb ( plus Bahrain) were similar to the uprisings in eastern europe in the 80’s , i disagree however as the people in the old eastern bloc saw their capitalist neighbours and thought that this was a feasible option in comparison to their socialist rule, the arabs however dont know what they want, they want rid of their dictators for supposed " freedom" but to be honest they have no idea what do do with it and it is this void that is the perfect environement for a totalitarian islamic regieme can take over “convincing” people to put their faith in Allah whilst the corruption continues…

The Gaza Strip is bad news to Egypt, they have traditionally seen it as israels problem and is nothing to do with them , people seem to forget that their military shoot on sight anyone trying to jump the border, right now it would be suicide for the regieme in egypt to engage in any dialogue with Hamas as all it will do is strengthen the position of the Islamic Brotherhood in Cairo, Hamas are bad news in the middle east, Jordan, the lebanaeese and all the north african states want nowt to do with them for obvious reasons such as their links to al quada.
the reaction in israel to what is going on in cairo is muted enough, they know damn well that the protestors have had their day in the sun and to be honest its within both sides intersts to retain a peace coexistence with each other as the both have a healty enough respect for what each side is capable of if provoked… bad news for the lads in gaza howver who will just remain more and more isolated as long as Hamas stay in power

[balbec]

The arab spring has also faciliated the ethnic cleansing of Christians from the region.

[Watch_The_Break]

US embassy in Cairo has been overrun by protesters.

[The_Runt]

The Prophet Mohammed.
That is all.

[mickee321]

@Watch The Break

US embassy in Cairo has been overrun by protesters.

You’d wonder what’s the point
If the US had any balls they would just cut of all the financial aid they give this mess of a country and let it burn.
It is on the road to self decstruction anyhow, Mubarak was the only thing holding that place together and now they are really are understaning what " democracy" means,.,. fucking idiots, they got rid of a dictator and vote in a virtaul Taliban governement with a leader much more corrupt than Mubarak ever was… they deserve everything the get for sheer stupidity alone.
The army need to man up, install martial law and take control of that mess right now before it gets any worse

[Sidney]

Iran hostage crisis mark II?

[Sidney]

@mickee321

You’d wonder what’s the point
If the US had any balls they would just cut of all the financial aid they give this mess of a country and let it burn.
It is on the road to self decstruction anyhow, Mubarak was the only thing holding that place together and now they are really are understaning what " democracy" means,.,. fucking idiots, they got rid of a dictator and vote in a virtaul Taliban governement with a leader much more corrupt than Mubarak ever was… they deserve everything the get for sheer stupidity alone.
The army need to man up, install martial law and take control of that mess right now before it gets any worse

This is all the work of Mubarak Hussein Osama.

[The_Runt]

@mickee321

You’d wonder what’s the point
If the US had any balls they would just cut of all the financial aid they give this mess of a country and let it burn.
It is on the road to self decstruction anyhow, Mubarak was the only thing holding that place together and now they are really are understaning what " democracy" means,.,. fucking idiots, they got rid of a dictator and vote in a virtaul Taliban governement with a leader much more corrupt than Mubarak ever was… they deserve everything the get for sheer stupidity alone.
The army need to man up, install martial law and take control of that mess right now before it gets any worse

I thought the army pretty much had control of the country?
What would the army do differently?

[Piles_Hussain]

The Septics have blacklisted one of the more effective of the Syrian insurgent groups as terrorists.
Might Assad turn into their kind of son of a bitch all of a sudden?

[The_Runt]

I see that one of the main groups pushing for the removal of Basshar Al Assad in Syria have come out and confirmed their allegiance to Al Queada.
This might put the yanks in a tricky spot.

[Julio_Geordio]

[quote=“mickee321, post: 565792, member: 367”]
The army need to man up, install martial law and take control of that mess right now before it gets any worse[/quote]

Mickee may be getting what he wants after all. Military intervening in 2 days if the peoples demands aren’t met. Another civil war in the offing?

[The_Runt]

What way are things going in Syria the past few weeks? The Government had gotten the upper hand recently, have the yanks etc started arming the rebels on a large scale yet?

[glasagusban]

@The Runt

What way are things going in Syria the past few weeks? The Government had gotten the upper hand recently, have the yanks etc started arming the rebels on a large scale yet?

The Russians are arming the Syrian government just as fast or faster than anyone can arm the rebels.

[Julio_Geordio]

@Julio Geordio

Mickee may be getting what he wants after all. Military intervening in 2 days if the peoples demands aren’t met. Another civil war in the offing?

The coup has started. Tanks are rolling in the streets

[TreatyStones]

What’s the craic in Egypt Mickee?
Could this develop into a civil war? Do the Muslim Brotherhood have a much support outside of Cairo?

[TreatyStones]

That Assad lad is an awful messer. He’s probably gone too far though with gassing hundreds of children.
Surely the forces of democracy will have to step in and oust him?

[Sidney]

[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 821019, member: 1786”]That Assad lad is an awful messer. He’s probably gone too far though with gassing hundreds of children.
Surely the forces of democracy will have to step in and oust him?[/quote]
“The forces of democracy” aren’t so great themselves.

[carryharry]

@Sidney

“The forces of democracy” aren’t so great themselves.

Flesh that out further please @Sidney

[Sidney]

@carryharry

Flesh that out further please @Sidney

http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/video-syrian-rebels-behead-man-execute-2-women/