Bush Fires in Australia

[quote=“dancarter”]Badly rattled.

NCC is seething[/quote]

im sick of lippy muldoons gnawing on my johnson:p

You’ve been badly exposed again. It’s getting sad at this stage.

fairly crazy stuff in Victoria and South Australia now alright. death toll to rise well above 200. apparently they are ‘closing in’ on one of the arsonists in Churchill in Vic, which destroyed 40,000ha of land and killed at least 20 people.

and for the conspiracy theorists, there may be one or 2 bad eggs anywhere, but do you really think voluntary firefighters get a thrill pulling dead bodies out of burnt out cars or homes?

imagine trying to put these fires out.

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/victorian-bushfires.jpg

this was a town.can see the burnt out properties all around theplace.
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6479404,00.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476609,00.jpg

crazy for people to blame the firefighters with no evidence

Crazy stuff. Stupid questions:

  1. Avoiding the volunteer firefighters angle for a second why do arsonists start these fires? Are they trying to make a point on anything or is it just damage for the sake of it?

  2. Are the fires really that fast that you can’t drive away from them? You know the way when hurricanes hit in the States and often people that refuse to leave their gaffs are the ones that get killed - is it the same there or do they not have time to get out? You’d think you’d move quicker than a fire.

[quote=“Gman”]fairly crazy stuff in Victoria and South Australia now alright. death toll to rise well above 200. apparently they are ‘closing in’ on one of the arsonists in Churchill in Vic, which destroyed 40,000ha of land and killed at least 20 people.

and for the conspiracy theorists, there may be one or 2 bad eggs anywhere, but do you really think voluntary firefighters get a thrill pulling dead bodies out of burnt out cars or homes?

imagine trying to put these fires out.

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Hey mush, it’s been proven in cases before where volunteer fire fighters have been convicted of deliberatly starting fires. That is a fact not a conspiracy theory.

I’m not saying that volunteer fire fighters had anything to do with the latest outbreaks, just saying that it had happened in the past.

[quote=“therock67”]Crazy stuff. Stupid questions:

  1. Avoiding the volunteer firefighters angle for a second why do arsonists start these fires? Are they trying to make a point on anything or is it just damage for the sake of it?

  2. Are the fires really that fast that you can’t drive away from them? You know the way when hurricanes hit in the States and often people that refuse to leave their gaffs are the ones that get killed - is it the same there or do they not have time to get out? You’d think you’d move quicker than a fire.[/quote]

dont know why people would start these fires rocko. might be just a vandal thing or something, I cant understand it myself.

say you are driving to get away from the fires, and these roads go through a lot of bushland and trees. you think you are driving away from one inferno, until you coe to a wall of flames at a section in the road. turn around and go the other way and the fire has caught up on that side. it can travel at something like 20kmph, so it moves uick enough really. there are fook all roads in outback Oz, so no chance of taking other routes. if you get stuck on one road, thats pretty much it.

[quote=“therock67”]Crazy stuff. Stupid questions:

  1. Avoiding the volunteer firefighters angle for a second why do arsonists start these fires? Are they trying to make a point on anything or is it just damage for the sake of it?

  2. Are the fires really that fast that you can’t drive away from them? You know the way when hurricanes hit in the States and often people that refuse to leave their gaffs are the ones that get killed - is it the same there or do they not have time to get out? You’d think you’d move quicker than a fire.[/quote]

Ever hear the phrase “spread like wild fire”? the problem is that the fires move in what they call “pulses”. It can be travelling at a relatively slow speed of around 10km/h but then in spots can cover over 400m in a matter of seconds. People see the fire in the distance and think they have plenty of time to get away but then they can be surrounded in minutes.

[quote=“The Runt”]Hey mush, it’s been proven in cases before where volunteer fire fighters have been convicted of deliberatly starting fires. That is a fact not a conspiracy theory.

I’m not saying that volunteer fire fighters had anything to do with the latest outbreaks, just saying that it had happened in the past.[/quote]

backtrack

You’d be best not posting in this thread again. Your badly rattled and only making a show of yourself.

some freakish pictures from it all

imagine driving down the road to see this
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476308,00.jpg

and then turn around and see this at the other side.
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476344,00.jpg

or this
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476611,00.jpg

We drove through a few small fires when we were travelling around Oz. An unbelieveable sight to see them off in the distance at night time.

runt is seething

[quote=“Gman”]some freakish pictures from it all

imagine driving down the road to see this
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476308,00.jpg

and then turn around and see this at the other side.
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476344,00.jpg

or this
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6476611,00.jpg[/quote]

That’s what you get for the massacre of an indigenous people and the theft and colonisation of their land. East Belfast is next.

you mean?

how can they sleep while their beds are burning?

[quote=“therock67”]Crazy stuff. Stupid questions:

  1. Avoiding the volunteer firefighters angle for a second why do arsonists start these fires? Are they trying to make a point on anything or is it just damage for the sake of it?

  2. Are the fires really that fast that you can’t drive away from them? You know the way when hurricanes hit in the States and often people that refuse to leave their gaffs are the ones that get killed - is it the same there or do they not have time to get out? You’d think you’d move quicker than a fire.[/quote]

  3. These guys are pyromaniacs, ie they enjoy see fires burn. they often don’t contemplate the devastion potential. It’s the thrill of see the flames. Alternatively it’s kids playing with matches, idiots flicking cigarette butts out of their car windows (which is an offence especially on a total fire ban day), sometimes it’s aparks from machinery but very rarely. On total fire ban days anyone working in situations where there is a potential for sparks are prevented from doing so or have to take extra precautions. Some fires are started by lightening strikes but these are usually the ones in remote areas - not the ones that start near urban areas.

  4. Yes the fires are that fast, especially if the fire is running up hill where the fires can reach the fuel in front faster. If you get gusty winds then they are also very unpredictable and can change direction very quickly. Also embers can be blown miles and start spot fires away from the main fire front.

[quote=“chrish”]1. These guys are pyromaniacs, ie they enjoy see fires burn. they often don’t contemplate the devastion potential. It’s the thrill of see the flames. Alternatively it’s kids playing with matches, idiots flicking cigarette butts out of their car windows (which is an offence especially on a total fire ban day), sometimes it’s aparks from machinery but very rarely. On total fire ban days anyone working in situations where there is a potential for sparks are prevented from doing so or have to take extra precautions. Some fires are started by lightening strikes but these are usually the ones in remote areas - not the ones that start near urban areas.

  1. Yes the fires are that fast, especially if the fire is running up hill where the fires can reach the fuel in front faster. If you get gusty winds then they are also very unpredictable and can change direction very quickly. Also embers can be blown miles and start spot fires away from the main fire front.[/quote]

dont the bush fires reinvigorate the bush eventually - the ones that happen naturally?

Oh for fucks sake.

There have been cases in the past of people becoming volunteer firefighters, starting fires and then trying to look like heroes by outting them out.

No one has suggested these fires have been started by firefighters. The majority of them have been started by arsonists with nothing to do with the CFA, RFS or any other body.

NCC, grow fucking well up, stop trying to pretend your 4 years old.

you are suggesting it here -

Yes.
However, the ones that happen naturally rarely cause this scale of devastation