After having many off board discussions involving past and present forum members, it has become obvious to me that the Celtic undertone that exists on the forum is causing members to leave and is making it less appealing for new members to join. Diversity should be embraced and not scoffed at, which is often the case, with hoards of Celtic fans always trying to claim some moral highground when anyone may give a conflicting opinion.
Anyway thats my 2 cents.
jog on
which memebrs have left due to the Celtic undertones?
Flano wrote:
After having many off board discussions involving past and present forum members, it has become obvious to me that the Celtic undertone that exists on the forum is causing members to leave and is making it less appealing for new members to join. Diversity should be embraced and not scoffed at, which is often the case, with hoards of Celtic fans always trying to claim some moral highground when anyone may give a conflicting opinion.
Anyway thats my 2 cents.
A few points:
Thereâs not a Celtic undertone on the forum. The forum was set up by 3 Celtic supporters (rocko, myself and the bhoy - the latter being Celtic daft) so quite naturally we post threads about Celtic given we have a particular interest in the team.
Other people can post threads on whatever the fook they want, be they other Celtic supporters who have joined the site or folk who have joined and who donât give a scheidt about Celtic.
Itâs up to the people posting to drive what gets discussed and if posters want to debate about Celtic then theyâre more than welcome to do so. If Celticâs not your deal then donât read the threads or contribute something else.
If people donât have anything to say on all the forum topics yet donât bother to start new debates themselves then I donât think theyâre adding much to the forum anyway.
And if people feel a bit disenfranchised because others are discussing Celtic then Iâd say get a fooking life.
My point was if new members arent going to join because of the definite Celtic undertone that exists then the level of alternative input wonât increase. It does feel like a Celtic love in at times on here. Just becasue you say it doesnt, doesnt mean so unfortuantley. Im not saying that people shouldnt discuss their favourite team, its primarily a sports discussion forum and thats what it exists for. Itâs just the level of content about Celtic is unusually high and therefore when people who visit the site and may join, get put off. I have told people about the site and they havent joined because of this reason. Its just the way it appears to people who have never been on here before. Also people get ridiculed for supporting Premiership teams, and lets be honest, that makes up the vast majority people.
To address ravins question, I never said anyone left becasue of the Celtic undertone.
In all fairness Flano, do these people who feel threatened by others discussing Celtic want reassurance or a hug perhaps? The level of Celtic content isnât unusually high - itâs simply what some of us are interested in talking about. If others contributed on topics they were interested in then the relative level of Celtic debate wouldnât be as high. But if they prefer sulking about it then thatâs their choice and I donât really care one way or the other whether they post here or not.
To be honest if something of interest happens at Celtic Iâll post about it and I wonât stop to worry what the easily offended brigade think about another Celtic debate. As I said anyoneâs free to post about whatever they want and if thatâs an issue for some people and they want a forum where Celtic supporters are only allowed to contribute to one generic thread then I would recommend www.foot.ie.
foot.ie is dying a death - rovers fans have nearly all stopped posting on it & so have a lot of other fans
Flano wrote:
My point was if new members arent going to join because of the definite Celtic undertone that exists then the level of alternative input wonât increase. It does feel like a Celtic love in at times on here. Just becasue you say it doesnt, doesnt mean so unfortuantley. Im not saying that people shouldnt discuss their favourite team, its primarily a sports discussion forum and thats what it exists for. Itâs just the level of content about Celtic is unusually high and therefore when people who visit the site and may join, get put off. I have told people about the site and they havent joined because of this reason. Its just the way it appears to people who have never been on here before. Also people get ridiculed for supporting Premiership teams, and lets be honest, that makes up the vast majority people.
Iâd echo what Bandage said. There is no limit on what people talk about here other than racism or anything that might get the website or its users into trouble with the law or with their places of employment. It just happens that the more active members tend to be the Celtic fans but thatâs not at the exclusion of anyone else.
To address ravins question, I never said anyone left becasue of the Celtic undertone.
You said: âit has become obvious to me that the Celtic undertone that exists on the forum is causing members to leaveâ 
Im not saying people are offended, threatened or anything of the sort. Its just to the impartial viewer the forum, at times, does seem to be a very Celtic orientated place. They just feel there isnt enough diversity for them to join.
Your point on others contributing to other topics that interest them is moot. My whole point is there isnt enough people to actually start different topics. The general trend with forums is that new members wouldnt start new topics rather they would reply to them. After time they would begin to contribute.
Bandage if youâre ok with not wanting to increase membership fair enough. I would have though thats what you would have wanted.
therock67 wrote:
Flano wrote:
[quote]My point was if new members arent going to join because of the definite Celtic undertone that exists then the level of alternative input wonât increase. It does feel like a Celtic love in at times on here. Just becasue you say it doesnt, doesnt mean so unfortuantley. Im not saying that people shouldnt discuss their favourite team, its primarily a sports discussion forum and thats what it exists for. Itâs just the level of content about Celtic is unusually high and therefore when people who visit the site and may join, get put off. I have told people about the site and they havent joined because of this reason. Its just the way it appears to people who have never been on here before. Also people get ridiculed for supporting Premiership teams, and lets be honest, that makes up the vast majority people.
Iâd echo what Bandage said. There is no limit on what people talk about here other than racism or anything that might get the website or its users into trouble with the law or with their places of employment. It just happens that the more active members tend to be the Celtic fans but thatâs not at the exclusion of anyone else.
To address ravins question, I never said anyone left becasue of the Celtic undertone.
You said: âit has become obvious to me that the Celtic undertone that exists on the forum is causing members to leaveâ [/quote]
I lost the run of myself there
Flano, youâre basically having a whinge about their being âa Celtic undercurrentâ on the board. Thereâs no such thing. Itâs merely people talking about Celtic, as is their entitlement. The tone you use almost suggests thereâs something untoward or wrong about discussing the club. If people have an issue with Celtic being discussed on the forum then thatâs their problem and if they donât like it then theyâre free to browse elsewhere.
Iâm not sure what the point of your initial post was other than saying in a roundabout manner that there should be a limit on the extent to which Celtic get debated on here. As I said thatâs not going to happen as people can post on any topic they like, within reason as rocko pointed out. I wouldnât have thought diversity was an issue looking at the different topics on the different boards either.
Youâre doing it again Bandage. I just told you that people feel there is a âa Celtic undercurrentâ you saying there isnt doesnt change that, people have that opinion.
I donât think there should be a limit on anything being discussed either, even more so than yourself.
Flano, please explain what you mean by undercurrent in this instance. Thereâs a healthy portion of members who regularly discuss Celtic because theyâre interested in Celtic. Thatâs not an undercurrent - itâs people openly debating matters that interest them. If people have the opinion that this is an undercurrent then they donât know what an undercurrent is. And, like I said, theyâre free to post on whatever else they want to and if they donât fancy posting here then good luck to them.
I love rangers!
The whole idea of an undercurrent(not my original word) is that is not totally evident, it exists but is not exactly identifiable.
There ya go Flango, some diversity for ya there in my last post. Happy now?
BenShermin wrote:
There ya go Flango, some diversity for ya there in my last post. Happy now?
9 in a row!
There is no undercurrent or undertone of pro-Celtic stuff. Itâs an over-current, itâs blatantly pro-Celtic, as most of the lads posting seem to be Celtic fans. That stands to reason.
Iâm with the Celtic boys on this - if people canât stand up for themselves and express their opinions, Celtic-related or otherwise, then they should shag off and do some knitting or something. Either that or foot.ie I suppose. I post on foot.ie occasionally, but it is indeed a horrific internet forum.
So people have said to you they think thereâs a Celtic element to the forum but itâs hard to identify and thatâs a negative for them and they wonât join as a result? They donât appear to be all that perceptive then because the debates about Celtic are pretty regular and open on here. It looks like weâll just have to miss out on getting these folk to join then, which wouldnât seem to be all that big of a loss given the absolute stupidity of their reasoning.
More to the point. Any negative comments about Celtic are attacked by the blinkered opinions of the Celtic fans on here, ya happy now.
Flano wrote:
More to the point. Any negative comments about Celtic are attacked by the blinkered opinions of the Celtic fans on here, ya happy now.
Lovely sweeping generalisation there Flano. Why didnât you say it straight out at the start instead of pussyfooting around the issue - âCeltic fans bad and all others goodâ? As a âblinkeredâ Celtic supporter on here I readily enter debates about the club but itâs ridiculous to suggest I attack anyone who holds an alternative view. The whole point of a forum is to debate issues and thereâs always going to be differences of opinion. Grow a pair of balls and argue back if you disagree with somebody but itâs frankly pathetic to be whingeing about Celtic supporters ganging up on others when that is blatant crap.