As a phenomenon however, hooliganism is more or less confined to football isn’t it? Why is that? I’d hazard a guess that it also mainly stems from urban, working class areas. I don’t know what that tells you but it seems to be the case anyway.
after the 1st penalty i thought Doni was going to be brilliant
after the 1st penalty i thought Doni was going to be brilliant[/quote]
Fooks sake. Diaby was Roma’s big chance. That lad can’t do precision.
[quote=“north county corncrake”]elaborate on the riot between Juve & lazio fans where the policeman was killed?
dont think hooliganism caused that Rome derby to be cancelled
for all the incidents in Italy- nothing compares to what english fans get up to & have done in the past[/quote]
In fairness NCC, you are not comparing like with like. The English have been (more or less) done with it for a while, its been growing if anything in Italy over the past few years. Italy is heading where England once was.
What i cannot understand is your defending of Roma. I’m very confused by it, you defend them like you defend SR, its weird.
after the 1st penalty i thought Doni was going to be brilliant[/quote]
Congrats on the 6000th post Ncc.
is there any other sports in europe as widespread & that gets the crowds from different backgrounds that football does-
i guess the urban bit is to do with the bigger clubs been in the bigger cities but are lazio fans for example very working class & are PSG or Ajax fans working class
[quote=“north county corncrake”]
for all the incidents in Italy- nothing compares to what english fans get up to & have done in the past[/quote]
We all know what the English fans did and i would say that pretty much everone condemns them for it, but it is not the english I am on about, there are shit loads of italian hooligans, Roma having a good fe of them and have had serious incidents with crowd trouble…
Didn’t the Roma fans also destroy a train station recently enough
Pity about the neglected child though.
[quote=“caoimhaoin”]In fairness NCC, you are not comparing like with like. The English have been (more or less) done with it for a while, its been growing if anything in Italy over the past few years. Italy is heading where England once was.
What i cannot understand is your defending of Roma. I’m very confused by it, you defend them like you defend SR, its weird.[/quote]
are you sure its growing? compared to what - the 90’s
they say that about football hooliganism here but it was much worse in the 70’s & the 80’s
[quote=“The Puke”]We all know what the English fans did and i would say that pretty much everone condemns them for it, but it is not the english I am on about, there are shit loads of italian hooligans, Roma having a good fe of them and have had serious incidents with crowd trouble…
Didn’t the Roma fans also destroy a train station recently enough[/quote]
no they didnt destroy a trainstation recently:rolleyes:
[quote=“HBV*”]if there’s one side from england you’d want to face in a penalty shootout its arsenal
the romans were lucky they weren’t facing one of the top 4 english teams tonight[/quote]
Well said, The Villa would have opened up a can of whoop ass on the limited Romans. Arsenal were poor tonight. Diaby looks a decent player at times. Van Persie was woeful up front. I truly believe he should play in midfield.
You can’t really blame a 'keeper in a shoot-out…but Doni got a hand to Walcott’s yet couldn’t keep it out and then sat down to the side early a couple of times. I think Denilson knocked one right down the middle and Diaby’s was dodgy enough and fairly central too.
Mirko and Baptista simply weren’t at the races at all tonight but everyone put in a great shift. David Pizarro was magnificent and played 120 minutes with a thigh strain - some effort. The central defensive pairing for the most part of Diamoutene (his 3rd ever start) and Riise (!) were exceptional.
A really valiant fight but you don’t always get what you deserve in sport. Onwards, and Sampdoria at the weekend. Forza Roma.
Fella I worked with in Leeds used to tell me about his older brothers being with the Leeds Service Crew. His attitude was it was no more complicated than large crowds of young lads doing it for kicks at the weekend and once they got married and all the rest they just left it behind them. Generally only had a small group of hardcore nutters and the rest just followed their lead. Hard to know how to deal with it really, there’s never a shortage of young lads out to join a phoney army.
let them at it
7 out of 8…nothing wrong with that…
http://www.thefreekick.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=129790&postcount=9
[quote=“The Puke”]7 out of 8…nothing wrong with that…
http://www.thefreekick.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=129790&postcount=9[/quote]
Inter. Really.
inter:D
If they had been a bit more clinical when on top in the first half tonight they could well have qualified, but over the two legs united were the better team and deserved to go through
A typical Zlatan performance tonight. Dont belive the hype. I always felt that United would have turned on if they had to. Scoring early in both halves meant they were content just to hang on to possession and try and hit Inter on the break. My ht ft double of Barca and United came in so a good night overall.
[quote=“The Puke”]7 out of 8…nothing wrong with that…
http://www.thefreekick.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=129790&postcount=9[/quote]
Me too. Villareal stopped the clean sweep for me.
I distinctly remember saying all 4 english teams would make the quarter finals at the start of the competition.
Draw
Porto v Liverpool
Arsenal v Villareal
Man Utd v Barcelona
Chelsea v Bayern Munich