Clare GAA Thread šŸ

Everyone wrote them boys off, so they did. Dark forces are at work, the doomers and gloomers were out but I know what them boys are like so I do.

Keeps Davy in a job, that will do.

It will

lads chill if your from anywhere but limerick

I think they tried that last summer.

Clare saga highlights the nightmarish side of the dreamy GAA tradition
Is the humiliation of promising young players not too high a price for glory?

Davy Fitzgerald: Reiterated his certainty that nobody had been treated unfairly before stonewalling all-comers. Photograph: INPHO

Keith Duggan

The common observation after the kind of internecine conflict which broke out in the Clare hurling panel last week is that there are no winners. And all of that may be true but the person who has indisputably lost the most is the former Clare hurler Davy Oā€™Halloran, who is all of 22-years-old.
Since speaking his mind in this newspaper last Saturday, the Ɖire Ɠg man has found himself light years away from a sporting group and a sport which has presumably been at the epicentre of his life since he was a child. It must be a lonely place in which to be.
Clare is one of those GAA counties which are inexplicably prone to incendiary episodes that seem scripted by the creators of HBO dramas. This period of internal strife was sufficiently grave for RTEā€™s Six One news to solicit the views of Morrissey - Marty, not Stephen Patrick - in an interview with Evanne NĆ­ Chuilinn, following a statement released by the Clare panel.
Marty is from Clare and it must have been a dismaying story for him. He was thorough in his appraisal of what happened while allowing that the Clare manager, Davy Fitzgerald, at whom Davy Oā€™Halloran had directed his unhappiness was ā€œa playersā€™ man 100 per centā€. That may well be true and we have to assume that the Clare panel are as certain in their conviction that Oā€™Halloranā€™s portrayal of events in his Irish Times interview is not fully accurate, just as much as Oā€™Halloran believes his perception of events. But the most important part of what Oā€™Halloran said is beyond any interpretation or objection.
He said that the punishment handed out to himself and Nicky Oā€™Connell - training separate to the main panel and having no dialogue with them, not allowed wear the official training gear, not allowed travel to matches - had left him feeling ā€œhumiliated.ā€ Only Oā€™Halloran can know what it felt like to actually show up at training and to endure this separation for what was to have been a scheduled three weeks.
His belief that a more senior player had been spared the same punishment despite admitting a more serious transgression deepened his sense of unfairness. Clearly, he found it intolerable. Clearly, he didnā€™t walk away from the panel for the fun of it and he canā€™t be enjoying very much the feeling of being at the epicentre of an intense week of media coverage of the row. If Oā€™Halloran was in Coventry before he left the Clare panel, then where is he now?
And how does Fitzgerald feel about this? After Clare beat Dublin last Saturday afternoon, Fitzgerald knew that he would face a thousand and one questions about that morningā€™s interview. He took them on by reiterating his certainty that nobody had been treated unfairly and then stonewalling all comers: Clarence Darrowhimself couldnā€™t have persuaded Fitzgerald to elaborate further. The terse statement released midweek by the Clare panel offered substance to Fitzgeraldā€™s conviction that the squad was fully unified.
Because the explanation and comments from Fitzgerald and the panel have been so gnomic they have created, inadvertently or otherwise, the notion that Oā€™Halloran and Nicky Oā€™Connell had deserted of their own accord. Something doesnā€™t quite add up about that line of thinking though. Until a few weeks ago, Oā€™Halloran and Oā€™Connell were in it up to their necks with the rest of the players, hurling, running, hurting, lifting. They were part of this cause. Then they did something which contravened the code of conduct which the panel presumably agreed with management. ā€œBeing outā€ and drinking minerals is hardly going off the rails. As Oā€™Halloran pointed out, both were injured and not even in the reckoning for selection.
Most of us live our lives outside the near-religious fervour with which elite GAA players dedicate themselves to the idea of being a team. To outsiders, this Clare row must seem like the height of insanity. And it is but then, the entire tradition of the All-Ireland hurling and football championships is built upon an idea that is undeniably beautiful but at some other level is also undeniably insane.
The extremes through which squads go from autumn until summer to try and win a big piece of silverware for their county both insane and magical. Nothing changes and yet everybody in the county is transported by the idea of being All-Ireland champions. And many county teams have no real chance of winning anything but its players purge themselves anyhow.
In Clare, Davy Fitzgerald is a son of one of the most infamously punishing training regimes in GAA history. Ger Loughnaneā€™s team responded to the frustration of belonging to a county that couldnā€™t win by channelling a collective fury. Mike McNamara, the coach, broke the 1994/95 squad down to build them up. ā€œVery few players would come back to question what I had written. Davy Fitzgerald would but then Davy loves to question everything,ā€ McNamara wrote in his memoir To Hell and Back.
When he read an article in which Fitzgerald had said he needed a specialist hurling coach, McNamara responded by having other keepers smashing 150 sliotars at his number one, time after time. That ended that. Fitzgerald was and is a unique figure: physically small and ferociously determined. In Last Man Standing, Christy Oā€™Connorā€™s definitive book on hurling goalkeepers, there is an unforgettable yarn about Fitzgerald contesting for the senior Clare spot with Leo Doyle of Bodyke.
Fitzgerald knew that Doyle worked in Shannon and so got out of his bed and cycled to a place on the road where he knew his adversary would drive by every morning. He hit a ball against the wall until the car past and then cycled home again. Just to have the other guy thinking. When Fitzgerald began to contest the Poc Fada, his entourage included a masseur and people who would familiarise him with the cartography of the course.
His chronicling of the verbal abuse he took from behind the wires at games - about his marriage, his parenting, himself - is disturbing to read. After winning the All-Ireland as manager with Clare in 2013, he gave a powerful account of the bullying he was subjected to in school on radio with Miriam Oā€™Callaghan. He had to learn the hard way how to stand up for himself and how to fight back; how to never back down from anything or anyone. There was a little of that this week.
Fitzgerald was shaped by 1980s and 1990s Ireland and the contemporary GAA: the school of hard knocks. He must have had limitless courage to come through what he did. Now, he is the guy shaping Clareā€™s best young hurlers. He is presumably privately appalled at the idea that he has humiliated a young player. Equally, he may be absolute in his sense that he has conducted himself in the right way. The purpose of the punishment was probably supposed to achieve the opposite: purgatory followed by a welcoming back into the fold and a stronger sense of togetherness.
It didnā€™t work. Maybe it would have been better for Davy Oā€™Halloran to try and resolve his issues internally. But this is a young player, not a senior figure in the team. Things played out as they did. Clare - Fitzgerald, the hurling panel, the supporters - will move on: matches will be played, people will forget. They are a superbly talented bunch and in Fitzgerald they have a leader with uncommon zeal: they may win big stuff this summer.
But that doesnā€™t change the fact that there is a hollowness emanating from the message emanating from the Clare camp this week. Oā€™Halloran and Oā€™Connell were their teammates. Does that count for nothing? Can they really move on without a backwards glance? And if so, at what cost in five months or five years time?
And it doesnā€™t change the fact that the GAA, with it its prevailing value system and the seemingly perpetual pressure on all squads and managers to push themselves to the brink and to exclude the sort of common social experiences of all twenty-somethings, has failed Davy Oā€™Halloran.
It is a grand and dreamy tradition, the GAA and the All-Ireland pursuit. But what happened in Clare this week has made it all seem a bit small and joyless and may make other promising young players wonder what in the hell it is all about.

Iā€™m lead to believe Colm Galvins transfer to Tipperary has been confirmed?

:o

Heā€™s going to Boston to play with Tipperary, itā€™s been known for 4-5 weeks now . Why Fitzgerald continued to start him is the question on most lips now

Fair play to the lad. Tipp Boston are a great club.

http://www.the42.ie/colm-galvin-america-2005647-Mar2015/

Confirmed it seems

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Sean Stack seems to think the GAA should be able to veto whether a person can go to America or not.

@Joe Player, Clare are fucked.

Lads lads

I would worry

It was doing his head in, heā€™s better off away from it. Serious hurler but there is a realistic chance heā€™ ll never hurl for Clare again

Iā€™ve spoken to a couple of other young ex- intercounty footballers from a non Munster county recently. One had been dropped off the county panel and another left of his own accord. Both said it was the best thing that ever happened then, that the relief of being off the panel was immense.

How so? His choice? Presumably heā€™ll walk back onto the team/panel any year he wants in the next 10 or so (presuming also that Davy isnā€™t made manager for life).

I had a similar conversation with an ex county hurler this evening. Pure giddy with having back to back weekends to himself for the first time in over a decade.

Fair fucks to them both, if the shit Iā€™ve heard in recent weeks about what constitutes Intercounty commitment Iā€™d honestly wonder why anyone outside of Kerry or Kilkenny would fucking bother their holes anymore for lunatics that pass for managers these days.