Considine for Cork

Considine for Cork

Friday March 13 2009

JOHN CONSIDINE was last night appointed as the interim manager of the Cork senior hurling team at a meeting of the county board at Pirc U Chaoimh.

Considine, who is expected to be in charge for the next two Allianz NHL games, against Clare and Limerick, beat Donal O’Grady in an election by 77 votes to 39 after nominations were sought from delegates at the meeting.

Delegates had wished to be able to go back to their clubs to discuss the interim manager and also had reservations as to whether anybody chosen last night would be interested in doing the job.

The two nominations were for 2004 All-Ireland-winning manager O’Grady, who was the favoured choice of the 2008 senior hurling panel, and the county’s U-21 hurling management committee, of which Considine, an All-Ireland winner with Cork in 1990, is currently manager.

He will be joined by selectors Tony O’Sullivan, Jim Cashman, Denis Ring and Paddy Daly as the county look to avoid relegation to Division 2 of the National League, having lost their three opening games.

The question of how a full-time manager will be appointed will be answered at a meeting of the board next Monday night, with a total of 10 proposals put forward at last night’s meeting.

These proposals will be emailed to clubs tomorrow, with the proposal of the county board’s executive looking the likeliest to get the nod. This proposal would see three Cork hurling people being appointed by the Central Council of the GAA, who would then recommending a manager for the county board to approve.

Cork chairman Jerry O’Sullivan said that he felt this was the best proposal, as it would be overseen by GAA Director General Paraic Duffy and would “take it out of realm of local politics and disputes and disagreements.”

These proposals will now be taken back to the clubs and one will be chosen at the meeting next Monday night.

The question also arose at the meeting as to whether Gerald McCarthy’s four selectors – Johnny Keane, Teddy McCarthy, Ger Fitzgerald and John Mortell – were considered to have left their positions, as none had announced their resignations.

O’Sullivan said that the selectors were chosen by the manager, and so were deemed to have left their posts when the manager left. To a request from the floor by Bishopstown delegate Bob Honohan that the board put on record its gratitude to McCarthy, O’Sullivan said that the executive fully endorsed everything said about McCarthy and that what had happened was saddening.

Honohan also said that the 2008 panel had serious questions to answer in light of McCarthy’s resignation statement, namely the allegation that senior players had urged others not to attend his mother’s funeral.

  • Cliona Foley

Theyre coming from across Europe and even the Atlantic Ocean overseas Hoops are breaking the bank to see Shamrock Rovers first game in Tallaght.

After a wait of 22 year since the clubs last home game against Sligo Rovers in Milltown back in 1987 the clubs loyal foreign legion just had to make it back for the big day.

Many Hoops based in Britain, Spain, Portugal, Germany and Italy have been taking trains, boats and planes to see their heroes make their debut at Tallaght Stadium.

At least two returning Rovers fans are coming over from the United States Rowan McFeely, who now lives in Boston, and Ger Coppinger, whos on a scholarship in St Louis.

Rowans arriving in Dublin on the morning of the Hoops first home game, which was originally scheduled for the following day. As he says: Its lucky I hadn’t booked to come in on the Saturday!

Despite being based Stateside for some time, the Hoops are still close to his heart. Ive been over here almost five years now and although a lot has been missed, this was one I couldn’t let pass by.

Rovers have been a huge part of my life but, as always, it will be a bigger part of other peoples lives - this is a night that belongs to all of us who stuck by Rovers.

It’s a night for those who have passed on, that won’t get to see the bridge from Milltown completed. A sad and long journey. One that nearly wasn’t completed well, we’re there now and I for one had to be there, too.

Caretaker role for Cork U-21 manager Considine
By Fintan O’Toole

JOHN CONSIDINE and his Cork U-21 selectors were last night appointed as the Cork senior hurling management team on an interim basis at a meeting of the Cork County Board in Pirc U Chaoimh, with chairman Jerry O’Sullivan assuring delegates that he was confident Considine and his colleagues would step into the breach if asked.

Delegates voted by secret ballot between the choice of the current U-21 hurling management team, that is headed by 1990 All-Ireland winner Considine, and 2004 Cork All-Ireland winning boss Donal O’Grady. The result of the vote was 77-39 in favour of the U-21 management team with two abstentions and three spoiled votes. The management team will be completed by current U-21 selectors Jim Cashman, Tony O’Sullivan, Denis Ring and Paddy Daly, and they will be in charge for Cork’s league matches against Clare in Cusack Park on March 22 and against Limerick in Pirc U Chaoimh on March 29.

The county board executive brought forward the two managerial proposals for delegate’s consideration at the start of the meeting, with the executive suggesting the Cork U-21 management team be appointed. Chairman Jerry O’Sullivan then informed delegates that 2008 Cork hurling captain John Gardiner had contacted him yesterday regarding O’Grady being appointed.

Meanwhile the process to choose the next full-time Cork hurling manager will be decided at a meeting of the Cork County Board next Monday night. Ten varying proposals were put forward at last night’s meeting as to the composition of the appointments committee for the manager. The county board executive’s recommendation was to hand over the power of appointing to the Central Council of the GAA, according to chairman Jerry O’Sullivan.

“Central Council would appoint three independent Cork GAA people to a committee that would be overseen by rd Stirthir Pdraic Duffy. This committee’s recommendation would be subject to the approval of the county board and would be for a two-year term. This would move it out of the realm of local politics and disputes.”

The proposals are set to be emailed by the executive to all Cork clubs today, for their consideration over the weekend before next Monday’s county board meeting. Clubs that do not have access to email are requested to collect copies of the proposals from the county board office in Pirc U Chaoimh before close of business today.

Earlier in the meeting there was uncertainty over the position of Gerald McCarthy’s Cork selectors — Ger Fitzgerald, Teddy McCarthy, John Mortell and Johnny Keane. Responding to a query from Sarsfields delegate Denis Hurley on whether those selectors were still in place, Jerry O’Sullivan stated: “Gerald has now resigned and in our opinion the four selectors are out of office as well. We should thank them for their services. These four lads did not resign. But in our opinion, when the manager went, they went. Of course they are eligible to be appointed by the new manager.”

Yet Midleton delegate Pat Horgan questioned as to whether this had been communicated to the selectors and earlier in the day, Johnny Keane had revealed that to his knowledge they remained Cork selectors.

Meanwhile chairman Jerry O’Sullivan reiterated again last night that GAA meetings outside of the Cork County Board have no standing. O’Sullivan was responding to a letter the executive received from 2008 Cork captain John Gardiner and Toms Ryan, chairman of the club forum set up last Sunday night in the Maryborough house. The letter outlined the results of the two motions that the club had voted on but O’Sullivan did not engage in debate on these due to not recognising these meetings.

The executive also stated that the calls for a special county convention were no longer relevant due to the issue of Gerald McCarthy’s management having been put to bed, when queried on this by Dripsey delegate Toms Ryan.

Earlier O’Sullivan paid tribute to Gerald McCarthy, whose tenure ended in acrimony when he resigned on Tuesday night.

“He has given magnificent service to his club, his county and indeed the GAA in general. He certainly didn’t deserve the treatment he received, it was uncalled for, unwanted and undeserved. All we can do is thank him for the services he has rendered to the county. We wish him well in the future, himself and his family.”

St Finbarr’s delegate Denis Harrington stated that he was, “Absolutely disgusted at the treatment of Gerald McCarthy since October” and described it as “absolutely sickening.” Central Council delegate Bob Honohan also called on the 2008 Cork panel to respond to claims made by Gerald McCarthy in his resignation statement on Tuesday night that players had been urged not to attend his mother’s funeral.

[quote=“north county corncrake”]Theyre coming from across Europe and even the Atlantic Ocean overseas Hoops are breaking the bank to see Shamrock Rovers first game in Tallaght.

After a wait of 22 year since the clubs last home game against Sligo Rovers in Milltown back in 1987 the clubs loyal foreign legion just had to make it back for the big day.

Many Hoops based in Britain, Spain, Portugal, Germany and Italy have been taking trains, boats and planes to see their heroes make their debut at Tallaght Stadium.

At least two returning Rovers fans are coming over from the United States Rowan McFeely, who now lives in Boston, and Ger Coppinger, whos on a scholarship in St Louis.

Rowans arriving in Dublin on the morning of the Hoops first home game, which was originally scheduled for the following day. As he says: Its lucky I hadn’t booked to come in on the Saturday!

Despite being based Stateside for some time, the Hoops are still close to his heart. Ive been over here almost five years now and although a lot has been missed, this was one I couldn’t let pass by.

Rovers have been a huge part of my life but, as always, it will be a bigger part of other peoples lives - this is a night that belongs to all of us who stuck by Rovers.

It’s a night for those who have passed on, that won’t get to see the bridge from Milltown completed. A sad and long journey. One that nearly wasn’t completed well, we’re there now and I for one had to be there, too.[/quote]

Bit of an embarrassment to have people coming from all over the world and still only sell 3500 tickets.

Is that spammer posting the same things in different threads?

Wow that newbie must be new to the internet as well as here!

Embarasssssssing…

[quote=“myboyblue”]Is that spammer posting the same things in different threads?

Wow that newbie must be new to the internet as well as here!

Embarasssssssing…[/quote]

this is a joke, at least with the likes of flano you can have a bit of banter, he takes it and he gives it back, but this lad is a retard.
there will be no one left here only himself and his chums if he keeps this up, maybe thats the plan. either way the lad is making a show of himself

Cant say I could agree or disagree HiBall because I dont really think this new fella has done anything apart from post up random spam.

Rocko is there a problem with the Spam detector?

[quote=“HBV*”]this is a joke, at least with the likes of flano you can have a bit of banter, he takes it and he gives it back, but this lad is a retard.
there will be no one left here only himself and his chums if he keeps this up, maybe thats the plan. either way the lad is making a show of himself[/quote]

I agree

Ah god bless flano, he’s one of the good uns.