& Sleepy Joe and Hunter.
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Mentally ill shouldnt excuse what he put those families through
Narrative man narrative.
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It’s like how people excuse Gemma O’Doherty and say she must be mentally unwell and to leave her be. Maybe they are mentally unwell, or maybe they are just cunts.
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Cant they be both?
He’s a symptom of the current ills of broadcasting and US society at large.
Of course being genuinelymentally ill is an excuse.
This is exactly it, but people genuinely mentally ill need treatment or tolerance or both. I never heard of this lad, but he doesn’t seem of sound mind. Well he isn’t of sound mind. The question is whether he is unwell or just nasty
To my mind, Gemma was unhinged by great grief. She was not always this way, and I feel sorrow when I see her, and don’t take her utterances seriously.
Ah stop. Have a read of the story and see what he did to those poor people. People who went through unimaginable heartbreak. Read what he done to them.
The details of his grift and weatlh - for that is what he is, a fucking grifter - are currently being outlined.
Hopefully to a degree that he is rendered destitute by the compensatory charges.
If not here then there are other similar cases on the way. Connecticut is next - might not be as accommodating as his home state.
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I think you’re missing the point. Suppose he is so deluded that he genuinely believes that the world is a great conspiracy, with lizard men, chem trails, the lot. If he genuinely believes this, then he may quite genuinely believe he is morally obligated to show the world the truth**
No I see the point. But excusing this as mental illness is a cop out given the horrific things he put them through. Its simply unacceptable.
I’m not excusing it as mental illness.
If he genuinely believed what he said then he wouldn’t have lied about it and he wouldn’t have had those lies exposed in court. He was his own messiah and Judas in one handy package, denying all the correspondence he had written because the court case threatened his business model.
He’s an absolute cunt. And as @Cheasty has said earlier the likes of Joe Rogan viewing him as either harmless or amusing says an awful lot about them too.
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You keep bringing up Gemma. Shes not the issue here. This guy is all sorts of evil. Mental illness is only an excuse.
That’s what I was trying to find out. I wasn’t arguing this case one way or another. My point was merely that if he genuinely is unhinged enough to actually believe the crap he has been spouting (and plenty believe all sorts, just look at the queue for a fortune teller), then he needs treatment, not punishment.
I’ve been reliably** informed here that he’s just monetising, in which case he deserves all that’s coming.
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Well this would be disappointing
The internet is a universe of information, a lot of it excellent but a hell of a lot more of it bullshit.
Jones has a captive market because, in a world which has grown ever more bafflingly complex and confusing, he peddles simplistic lies which simultaneously fool the gullible viewer into believing he and they have stumbled upon some sort of hidden truth that THEY are hiding from you.
He stands at the intersection of several pathologies.
The traditional paranoid style that has been at the heart of American society since Europeans first started colonising the continent. That paranoia came from puritanism and it came from frontier society. It’s the same paranoid style that permeates hard line unionism in the North.
America’s obsession with paranoid conspiracy theories from the Salem Witch Trials to the era of Jim Crow and the backlash against civil rights to the Satanic panic of the 1980s to the Tea Party to QAnon now is a rich tapestry. Jones understands this.
The desire to feel part of a group in an increasingly atomised world.
The atavistic desire to vilify and destroy another group. The atavistic desire for power and to mercilessly abuse it.
The “libertarian” idea that the worth of an opinion can only be determined by how popular it is and how much money it can generate. That there is no right or wrong or truth or lies.
The American obsession with celebrity.
The American wellness industry, which peddles bullshit seminars and fake “health products” and “supplements” to the gullible with promises that peoples’ lives will be transformed if only they trust the charlatans peddling them. Like Rogan, Jones peddles bullshit “supplements”.
The flood of dark money that funds information warfare. Alex Jones wants his followers to think he’s fighting against “the man”. He represents “the man” and is funded and promoted by them.
“The man” wants the game to be rigged for the super rich, no regulation, no taxes, no truth. The Republicans in the US want this. The right wing Brexiteers want this. The Russians want this. They are all in alliance on this. So they construct this parallel information world themselves.
Demagogues, think tanks, fake “journalism” outlets, they create or buy off academics and academic institutions, fake grass roots organisations.
Integral to creating this nihilistic capitalist paradise (in reality a dystopia) is information war, the destruction of institutions, the destruction of education, to make all people outside the super rich ultra cynical, ultra paranoid, and thus ultra gullible for the fascists who promise to impose “order”. To make people ultra stupid. To destroy opposition.
The fascists are “the man”. They are the super rich and every person who buys into any of the nonsense that Jones or Carlson or Trump and thousands upon thousands more far right (and indeed self styled “far left”) grifters are working for them.
Every single one of these cunts like Jones know exactly what they are doing.
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