This from the fella who is crying out about truth being essential
#aftertiming
Orwellian is moderate in relation to whats going on mate.
Depends on the context, doesnât it. When talking about serious matters of public health and other matters that affect how society functions, it definitely is.
When youâre winding up a cunt on a niche Irish internet forum who doesnât know what heâs even arguing about, not so much.
The models are based on assumptions, many of which we have little idea whether they are true or not.
How many people were infected in January and February and were asymptomatic? They had no or very mild symptoms but could infect others. Is that number 10% of all cases, 20%, 50%? We certainly had no idea in early March, and itâs still largely unknown.
You are truly blessed with a stunning lack of self-awareness.
Take your own advice Sid. It was a rare moment of lucidity but it wasnât wrong.
Theyâve a whole section on it for Flu strategies.
Obamaâs aids said that they told Trumpâs ones about a pandemic response (fully considered by public health experts and economists). Itâs one of his big failures on this. He had a limited strategy.
Public health officials have been warning of this for years. Iâd agree that it is hard to immediately respond - nobody thought weâd be in this situation 6 weeks ago and the WHO themselves were downplaying this not too long ago- but they do have considered strategies on this across the board.
Iâd agree that this is a new challenge and unthinkable barriers have been crossed. On the other side of the coin, the media were actively haranguing public health experts in the likes of the UK and the Netherlands for not shutting down as other countries were.
That colleges models were way off with Sars as wellâŚa very similar virus.
They donât seem to have any conscience in terms of small business, mental health etc - the testing of Covid-19 is apparently a shambles as well - not blaming them for that. Iâm sure their hearts are in the right place.
Asymptomatic cases wonât be known until there are widespread sereology tests.
At the moment itâs literally like looking for something that never existed
Iâm not the person thatâs obsessed with winning an argument, here, pal. Youâre the person who waded in and picked one. It isnât my fault that you thought you saw a chance to notch a âwinâ to salve your e-go and fell flat on your face because it turned out you didnât actually know what you were even arguing about, you were just whinging for no reason.
âSelf awarenessâ, lolz.
Thatâs another classic trope. You gave yourself the win three or four posts back, no need to repeat yourself, it looks desperately needy.
A hell of a lot of projection there, pal. Steaming in to desperately start an argument when you donât even know what youâre arguing about is a dead giveaway about whoâs needy and who isnât.
The scientists doing the models are not involved in economic decisions. Itâs like saying the lads who developed the atom bomb decided to drop it. Scientists provide the best data they can, flawed as it may be, and politicians get to make decisions.
Iâll remind you.
Fauci (in your imagination) was appeasing Trump in the fear he might be sacked. This was and is nonsense.
Except itâs whatâs actually happening and you refuse to see it.
Whatâs hilarious is that you decided to take the position you took purely because I said otherwise.
Itâs great to have have the power to annoy people into taking stupid positions which clash with reality.
Fauci would have no problem whatsoever telling Trump to get fucked.
I doubt he has any fear of being sacked at 79 years of age but pretty clear he is doing his best to coax Trump along the right path.
Ah lovely, the lad who addresses his all his posts at me but is too scared to actually reply directly steams in to help out a fool in distress.
The rage is rising in him.
Your position being that after serving under six presidents the 79 yr old expert in his field is worried about getting fired?
That makes literally no sense, but youâll carry on now ad infinitum.