Ahead of the publication on Tuesday of the Government’s plan for tackling Covid-19 over the next six months, he said: “We have got to be clever, we have got to be smart and we have to be resilient in terms of how we deal with it. The OVERARCHING objective must be public health but equally to protect livelihoods and keep people working and then have a decent quality of life for our children and our people overall.”
It’s almost like there’s been a surge of cases from very specific settlements of people. People who may live very closely to their relatives and mix a lot with a small group of people. Almost very cultural with their values.
And that the media are afraid to identify these groups of people for fear for a backlash of some kind.
100% Tim - we made the mistake also but now we have the benefit of hindsight to know it was a mistake so now it should not be allowed to repeat.
Aged care facilities is where the deaths from this virus are tragically occurring, look I get these theories that in order to reduce the probability of the virus getting into these settings we need to reduce it in the general population, yet I get it, but it is not practical and IMHO it’s a fucking theory.
The way to stop this thing entering aged care facilities is to absolutely lock them down and provide staff and visitors with PPE making it impossible for them to transmit if infected
Im not referring to lads in their 70’s at home as guess what statistcially they werent part of the collateral, let them be. Folk in care homes by and large are there for a reason, either they are terminally ill, above the average life expectancy or a combination of both and the virus is cleaning them out. They need to be provided with adequete protection as this is a life and death scenario for them and let the rest of us ride this out. The nonsensical hysteria about dublin lockdowns is a deflection from the bottom line as the government know they have ignored it and a are too far gone now in forcing fellas to resign over nonsensical shit that has no impact on anything. Folk have lost their jobs, marriages, futures over this shit - these “regulations” cant be rowed back now.
Folk in care homes need to be protected and there is a very simple way to get that done.
Let me ask you something? Why don’t people trust their instincts? They sense something is wrong, someone is walking too close behind them… You knew something was wrong but you came back into the house. Did I force you, did I drag you in? No. All I had to do was offer you a drink. It’s hard to believe that the fear of offending can be stronger than the fear of pain. But you know what? It is. And they always come willingly. And then they sit there. They know it’s all over just like you do but somehow they still think they have a chance. Maybe if I say the right thing? Maybe if I’m polite. If I cry, if i beg. And when I see the hope draining from their face like it is from yours right now. I can feel myself getting hard. You know, We’re not that different, you and I. We both have urges, satisfying mine requires more towels.
It isn’t just people in nursing homes dying, they are about 50-60% in most western countries. If you look at the age chart, it increase from 50 upwards, so a fair number were 55-75, all probably with comorbidities. But how many over 50 have no health issues?
It’s also not easy to keep the virus out of care homes, and I suspect there’s a randomness factor. My daughter worked for the summer in a rehab/care home and they had zero cases, including staff. Two care homes within 5 miles of hers were riddled, one had a few hundred cases and 30 deaths. In her place they wore surgical masks and gloves and she said the place was very clean, but they might have got lucky as well. I’s say the best you an hope for is strict enforcement of guidelines for staff and visitors.
But I agree with you in principle, strict guidelines for the young and healthy have run their course, and the damage done wasn’t worth it, as I’d somewhat confidently say not many lives were saved from lockdowns. Whatever lives were saved were mostly done by people being more careful and improved medical treatment.
People at low risk from the virus should be exposed to it so they can develop herd immunity and reduce the risk to vulnerable groups, according to Dr Martin Feeley, clinical director of the Dublin Midlands Hospital Group.
“That is what is happening and yet the policy seems to be to prevent it,” he says. “This should have been allowed to happen during the summer months before the annual flu season, to reduce the workload on the health service during winter months.”