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Oh we know you like what you said, thats quite clear.

Fintan O Toole in a rare moment of lucidity nails the issue in today’s IT

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/full-equality-often-has-to-wait-while-mainstream-opinion-catches-up-1.1678007

[quote=“Fagan ODowd, post: 898130, member: 706”]Fintan O Toole in a rare moment of lucidity nails the issue in today’s IT

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/full-equality-often-has-to-wait-while-mainstream-opinion-catches-up-1.1678007[/quote]
Fintan is always on the ball.

Wrong. He is full of self importance and one of the worst kinds of west Brit we have in the Pale. He’s on the money here though.

His book, Ship of Fools, was quite good.

I heard that alright but he is a populist and writing about greed and corruption in Irish politics and high society would be shooting fish in a barrel.

Disagree. He is on the money and definitely an alright sort. But then fatcats like you don’t like guys like Fintan exposing your greed and corruption and upsetting your cosy little cartel, do you? Cunt.

He is not an alright sort-he is a smug west Brit cunt. Your other points are valid though.

O’Toole on the Queen

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/22/fintan-otoole-queen-speech-Dublin

To the great surprise of those of us who have little time for monarchy, she walked that line with amazing grace. It is not simply that she didn’t put a foot wrong. It is that every step seemed exactly right, from her calm humility at the garden of remembrance to the beautifully crafted speech that began with a few perfectly pronounced words of Gaelic. If this was a performance, it was a magnificent one. But it always seemed like something more than that.
The Queen’s dignified simplicity at the garden of remembrance completely transformed the meaning of the visit. Most Irish people had seen it as a test of their own maturity, the ultimate way of discovering whether we could live without anglophobia. The Queen, remarkably, made it something else as well: a test of British maturity
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O’Toole on Martin McGuinness in 1998

That journey is treacherous because, though Irish republicans would like to think otherwise, the analogy between themselves and Kenyatta or Mandela is not in fact valid. The IRA’s campaign has not been a war of national liberation, waged on behalf of the majority against an oppressive minority or a foreign power. Its enemies have not been illegitimate regimes but two liberal democracies—the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland—and the majority Protestant population in Northern Ireland itself. The end-of-empire ritual of an old flag lowered at midnight and a new one raised at dawn will not be played out in Belfast, whatever the outcome of the talks. Sinn Fein’s leader, Gerry Adams, may have made the transition from terrorist to politician, but he and his comrades are not about to take over the state. The question on which the future of Northern Ireland depends is whether, without the reward of power, an undefeated paramilitary army can be persuaded to trade the epic certainties of violence for the unglamorous ambiguities of peaceful politics. One of the most resilient and fearsome of terrorist groups, which has withstood all the efforts of the British army and the local Northern Irish security apparatus to destroy it, is being asked to settle for something far short of its goals. And for this incorporation into a liberal democracy of an armed conspiracy to overthrow it, postwar history offers no precedent

Of all the rhetorical strategies employed in this debate, the most obnoxious is that of whitewashing McGuinness by smearing Mandela

[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 898268, member: 2272”]O’Toole on the Queen

It is that every step seemed exactly right, from her calm humility at the garden of remembrance to[/quote]

:smiley: She’s a fucking 90 year old woman. What did he think she was going to do? Break into a chant of Vindaloo?

[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 898268, member: 2272”]O’Toole on the Queen

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/22/fintan-otoole-queen-speech-Dublin

To the great surprise of those of us who have little time for monarchy, she walked that line with amazing grace. It is not simply that she didn’t put a foot wrong. It is that every step seemed exactly right, from her calm humility at the garden of remembrance to the beautifully crafted speech that began with a few perfectly pronounced words of Gaelic. If this was a performance, it was a magnificent one. But it always seemed like something more than that.
The Queen’s dignified simplicity at the garden of remembrance completely transformed the meaning of the visit. Most Irish people had seen it as a test of their own maturity, the ultimate way of discovering whether we could live without anglophobia. The Queen, remarkably, made it something else as well: a test of British maturity
.

O’Toole on Martin McGuinness in 1998

That journey is treacherous because, though Irish republicans would like to think otherwise, the analogy between themselves and Kenyatta or Mandela is not in fact valid. The IRA’s campaign has not been a war of national liberation, waged on behalf of the majority against an oppressive minority or a foreign power. Its enemies have not been illegitimate regimes but two liberal democracies—the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland—and the majority Protestant population in Northern Ireland itself. The end-of-empire ritual of an old flag lowered at midnight and a new one raised at dawn will not be played out in Belfast, whatever the outcome of the talks. Sinn Fein’s leader, Gerry Adams, may have made the transition from terrorist to politician, but he and his comrades are not about to take over the state. The question on which the future of Northern Ireland depends is whether, without the reward of power, an undefeated paramilitary army can be persuaded to trade the epic certainties of violence for the unglamorous ambiguities of peaceful politics. One of the most resilient and fearsome of terrorist groups, which has withstood all the efforts of the British army and the local Northern Irish security apparatus to destroy it, is being asked to settle for something far short of its goals. And for this incorporation into a liberal democracy of an armed conspiracy to overthrow it, postwar history offers no precedent

Of all the rhetorical strategies employed in this debate, the most obnoxious is that of whitewashing McGuinness by smearing Mandela[/quote]
He is a self-loathing, unctuous cunt who hates all things Irish and would love if we were still part of the empire. He may FOAD.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/feb/12/world-cup-25-stunning-moments-cameroon-argentina

The replacement’s performances at the World Cup proved so good that a promising 12-year-old midfielder from Tuscany decided that he’d prefer to be a goalkeeper all things considered, and bought his first pair of gloves. “It was N’Kono and his spectacular saves that made me fall in love with the position. He became my hero,” the kid said, many years later. As an adult, he named his son Thomas in the Cameroonian’s honour. The young Italian’s name was Gianluigi Buffon.

:clap:

[quote=“Thrawneen, post: 902271, member: 129”]http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/feb/12/world-cup-25-stunning-moments-cameroon-argentina

:clap:[/quote]
Thats an excellent read, I remembered 86, but didnt really get into it as much as 90, 90 was the defining football tournament for me as young fella. To see my beloved Diego lowered so early in a tournament was quite a life lesson, as was the subsequent resurrection.

The Guardian did an Olympic version of this sort of thing a while back, I presume this is something similar.

Interesting interview with Jaunde Ramos by Sid Lowe in today’s Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/13/juande-ramos-tottenham-hotspur-dnipro

I like the “who got married?” part at the beginning. :smiley:

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&ved=0CFIQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pauladaunt.com%2Fbooks%2FCurse%2520of%2520Lono%2520Hunter%2520S%2520Thompson.doc&ei=Ac0EU7G7Ouer7Abb-oDICA&usg=AFQjCNENp17esatLPVVIw9z5kpcbW-G10g&bvm=bv.61535280,d.ZGU

Hunter S. Thompson’s Curse of Lono, in .doc format, about the Honolulu Marathon, is keeping me amused in work this afternoon as I do my time.

[quote=“Thrawneen, post: 906013, member: 129”]http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&ved=0CFIQFjAG&url=http://www.pauladaunt.com/books/Curse%20of%20Lono%20Hunter%20S%20Thompson.doc&ei=Ac0EU7G7Ouer7Abb-oDICA&usg=AFQjCNENp17esatLPVVIw9z5kpcbW-G10g&bvm=bv.61535280,d.ZGU

Hunter S. Thompson’s Curse of Lono, in .doc format, about the Honolulu Marathon, is keeping me amused in work this afternoon as I do my time.[/quote]

Thraw, are you not doing the work of two people any more?

Did the uncle not call to see you? He was out in Belfield today for a game

[quote=“ciarancareyshurlingarmy, post: 906059, member: 464”]Thraw, are you not doing the work of two people any more?

Did the uncle not call to see you? He was out in Belfield today for a game[/quote]

I’m finishing up on Friday week, my man. I’ve pretty much cleared up at this stage and I’m just doing the odd bit. The poor fucker who is the same rank as me is getting all my work now. They probably won’t replace me for weeks, the horrid bastards.

Was he up in Belfield? Who was playing? I’ll give him a ring tomorrow and give out to him.

[quote=“ciarancareyshurlingarmy, post: 906059, member: 464”]Thraw, are you not doing the work of two people any more?

Did the uncle not call to see you? He was out in Belfield today for a game[/quote]

I saw we were bet by just the 6 goals. Nice to see a young lad from Oola on the team, though.

young fella here is not at all happy about it.