[quote=āstones_off, post: 853536, member: 1559ā]I doubt it. My father certainly had a better āstandard of livingā than me. My father had a relatively skilled manual job and could support a family of 6 kids, we would have grown up in what would have been considered a lower middle class family. 1 income could support a family in the 70s and 80s (if you could get a job).
Myself and wife both have professional jobs, but certainly donāt have the same buying power. Sure we have the crap you donāt need like smart phones, laptop, etc. Both that is probably down to our mindset now a days, less content with what we have and always wanting more.[/quote]
What did the buying power get ye that you donāt have now? Presume you take more holidays now than you did as a kid? My nephews have infinitely nicer clothes than we did too.
[quote=āstones_off, post: 853536, member: 1559ā]I doubt it. My father certainly had a better āstandard of livingā than me. My father had a relatively skilled manual job and could support a family of 6 kids, we would have grown up in what would have been considered a lower middle class family. 1 income could support a family in the 70s and 80s (if you could get a job).
Myself and wife both have professional jobs, but certainly donāt have the same buying power. Sure we have the crap you donāt need like smart phones, laptop, etc. Both that is probably down to our mindset now a days, less content with what we have and always wanting more.[/quote]
Itās nice to travel but I donāt see holidays as an indication of quality of life. Many people let the rest of their year suffer just to go to Spain for 2 weeks.
Stable home life, Free time, enjoyable job, no big loans, good friends and health. These are what I would say are the things were should aspire to.
The gap between rich and poor has been steadily widening, and widened even more during the Celtic tiger years. Iām surprised anyone out there could not know this.
My oul lad would be the same. Came to Dublin at 17 unskilled and from an entry-level office job was able to go to Old Trafford regularly (I know, I know), along with heading down home regularly to support Limerick in soccer and GAA, was able to go to the pub (he says theyād drink regularly and never drink at home), buy records and go to the cinema and concerts. When he met my ma, they were able to get a decent house at 23 or something and when she got pregnant she never worked properly again to this day.
I rang him about 10 minutes ago to ask him for a loan of a ton until I get paid next week as I donāt have enough to cover my rent on Friday and have enough to live on for the week.
The only thing that generation had worse was having to eat spuds and cabbage every day except for Sunday. Apart from that I wish Iād been born in the 50s.
I donāt know about the 70s or 80s, theyāre certainly not better off IMO. However it is worse that they are not better protected given that we are now a well developed country and the amount of money that was and to a certain extent still is washing around the place.
[quote=āThrawneen, post: 853559, member: 129ā]My oul lad would be the same. Came to Dublin at 17 unskilled and from an entry-level office job was able to go to Old Trafford regularly (I know, I know), along with heading down home regularly to support Limerick in soccer and GAA, was able to go to the pub (he says theyād drink regularly and never drink at home), buy records and go to the cinema and concerts. When he met my ma, they were able to get a decent house at 23 or something and when she got pregnant she never worked properly again to this day.
I rang him about 10 minutes ago to ask him for a loan of a ton until I get paid next week as I donāt have enough to cover my rent on Friday and have enough to live on for the week.
The only thing that generation had worse was having to eat spuds and cabbage every day except for Sunday. Apart from that I wish Iād been born in the 50s.[/quote]
I often think the same. Would have lived to have seen Luke Kelly in his prime.
[quote=ācaoimhaoin, post: 853563, member: 273ā]I donāt believe so, the perception of what is poor has changed and is even more materialistic than ever.
Police State western societies have made life more difficult for large portions of our populations.[/quote]
One example of how people are worse off is those in social housing. In the 70s they may have been lovely places but now many estates are ghettoes and many of the housing units uninhabitable, but thatās still where people are put.
[quote=āTreatyStones, post: 853584, member: 1786ā]Thereās no way the standard of living was better in the early 80ās.
From what I remember of my youth there was fuck all money around, and children today certainly have it far better off than we did.[/quote]
Absolutely spot on.
Fuxake lads, how old are ye?
Living in Ireland pre-90ās was a like living in a third world country, if you werenāt (a) a middle class type, doctor/teacher/bankmanager/etc or (b) a fat Farmer with 100 acres of land. For everyone else it was shit.
House estates were shit back then too. Believe me, I grew up on one.
No Fagan Iām too young to remember them. Iām commenting on my experience of the estates in limerick and using that to make broad sweeping assumptions about the state of the rest of places elsewhere.
[quote=āHis Holiness Da Dalai Lama, post: 853587, member: 1503ā]Fuxake lads, how old are ye?
Living in Ireland pre-90ās was a like living in a third world country, if you werenāt (a) a middle class type, doctor/teacher/bankmanager/etc or (b) a fat Farmer with 100 acres of land. For everyone else it was shit.
House estates were shit back then too. Believe me, I grew up on one.[/quote]
Teacher?
Even for the others you mention there wasnāt a whole lot of difference to everyone else Iād say.
