Deflection thread

Not many posters will have the gumption to admit that @Cicero_Dandi was right

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My prophecy has been fulfilled while the KOKs are wetting their knickers over an unfulfilled prophecy.

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I donā€™t care what anybody says but I think @Cicero_Dandi has a point. Messi is an incredible individual player but he spurned 3 chances tonight to kill tie and when things go against his side he rarely inspires his team mates to reach new levels. He isnā€™t a leader of men In fact his team mates seem overawed by him or fearful of him. In the opening half it was Vidal trying to grab the thing by the scruff of the neck. His team mates whether it be Barcelona or Argentina seem to regularly play within themselves around him.

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Agreed

That miss in the first half when the full back squared it rather than have a go sums him up

Messiā€™s peak was roughly 8 years ago. Heā€™s still the best player in the world but heā€™s nowhere near as good as he was back then

He has led Barcelona to the greatest times in their history so to say he inhibits his Barcelona teammates is completely wrong

His body language is horrible. You rarely see him encourage any of his teammates around him. Heā€™s an incredible footballer but a leader of men he is not.

He was surrounded by truly great players back then. Now at his age in this team youā€™d think heā€™d at least encourage the lads around him but instead he often looks like heā€™s sulking.

Heā€™s not surrounded by great players anymore and heā€™s still winning leagues most years and should have been in another CL Final after tonight if Dembele had taken the sitter Messi made for him at the end of the first leg or if Suarez had taken the chance Messi made for him tonight or if Jordi Alba had taken the chance Messi made for him tonight.

He was awful in the final 20 minutes and thinking he isnā€™t a leader is a valid opinion but to say heā€™s inhibiting his teammates is wrong

Ah here, they won the first leg 3-0.

He had 90 minutes tonight to ensure the victory, he pissed his pants. Heā€™s meant to be the best about, stop judging him under the barometer of an ordinary player.

Are you blind? I said he was awful in the final 20 minutes about 5 times now. Do you have anything to say about Luis Suarez when they were chasing a goal towards the end? Youā€™re a big fan of his and he didnā€™t have a touch