What I could see happening is a Fine Gael led coalition getting into power in the next General Election, the Government lasting a year or so before collapsing and then the voters flock back to good old “reliable” Fianna Fail.
For another 20 years…
Sadly I think that’s almost inevitable.
Spot on
I think not. All indications are that the next FG Labour government will have a significant majority. FF will rebuild from the back benches. Not that it matters a fuck as the economy will be run from Frankfurt at that stage anyway. If SF were to dump Adams and come up with some coherent policies they could attract a decent left wing vote during a huge recession.
Lads, Healy rae isn’t state like, but he does a great job for the people of South East kerry, and thats all they give a fuck about. He is proabably a glorified councillor, but he looks after his own.
Batt O’ Keaffe was Minister of Education and a neighbour of my old national school. The school needs to expand, and quick, yet he has taken 2 years to respond in any kind of reasonable way to constant calls to even look at the issue. Basically he’s of no use to his own electorate.
He’s also an utter cunt and a turnip
i actually don’t think he’s a cunt at all, just don’t think much of him as a politician or local represetnative. He did get alot of things done during his time as TD for Ballincollig, but these were more driven by the money of Michael O’ Flynn.
I was astonished to see him getting a Ministers job, more of a clap on the back for service more than anything.
Your probably right wtb ah fuck it you are right but there is no talk of reducing services in the Kerry hospital, they are getting a new one and the other is getting refurbished and all politics is local politics. I’d bet the son gets elected too.
Here lads if Labour do as good as is being predicted and FG does the same can anyone see a fg/ff coalition
No. Would never happen.
I’ll believe that spin about the hospital when it’s up and running
one thing to claim the credit for it, another entirely to deliver on that promise
as to the FG/FF coalition, I don’t think that would happen even if the alternative was direct control from the ECB
(although as it stands, I don’t see much difference between what we have now and ECB control anyway, perhaps only discretion over individual tax rates and where the axe falls when cutting expenditure)
Jesus i wouldn’t say that, they said there wouldn’t be a black president either in the US.
They are far more alike than they like to admit, and the thought of Labour holding sway may tip them over the edge into some form of dialog on it.
Every year that goes by the Civil War becomes less and less of a factor, the fact its an issue at all reflects very badly on us, but it still seems to hold water for some.
Fair enough. I await your defence of his special needs policy.
I don’t think it is a factor anymore, and it hasn’t been for years. Fianna Fail have more or less abandoned the foundations upon which they were formed when they signed up to the notion of consent in the North, which effectively meant that the border was recognised. They are now, for all intents and purposes, pro Treaty, or at least no longer anti Treaty.
Just goes to show how much of a waste the Civil War actually was.
The Fianna Fail/Fine Gael distinction is only held now by the older generation, and very lightly. Even my auld lad, a staunch Fianna Fail supporter, has said it is time to ‘let Fine Gael at it and see what they can do’.
You’ll be waiting, as there is none.
In fairness, i would say he is just the messenger.
farmer - Tell me why so, 2 parties, hardly anyway different have not merged into one super party so? I was over stating it a bit, and its not really the civil war per say, but its the legacy it has left. FG are told to hate FF and visa versa, alot of Politicians come from political families, it drops down from generation to generation. Most present day politicians would have heard alot of the guff from Grand parents, who were probably around, if not involved back then.
Thats very noble of your father, but in fairness, does it have to be this bad to let the other side have a go? And especially when the other side are at least as stupid, if not more so.
The closer FG and Labour are in terms of seats the less stable the coalition will be. FG see themselves as the powers-that-be in waiting. They won’t take kindly to paying second fiddle to Labour or to giving away key portfolios like Finance which is what will happen. I think Labour will be in no mood to take less than half the cabinet seats and with the in-fighting already taking place in FG it might not be a very happy camp.
FF have much more experience at how to manage these faultlines in-house and in keeping their coalition underdogs in check. I can see FG making an awful mess of the same situation. Think it will be more stable if Labour do manage to get ahead but I reckon that’s unlikely given the candidates they have available.
You’re spot on about the stability of the coalition, it would be more stable if they held a majority of just a couple of seats. I can’t see FG & Labour making it 12 months before falling out over some difference in Policy.
It doesn’t matter who gets into power at this stage as we are on the verge of inevitable bankruptcy and the IMF will come in within a few years and hopefully be the catalyst for reform from top to bottom. This country is rotten beyond repair in so many places that this is the only way we will ever recover.
:rolleyes:
its already happened retard
When?
I’m not sure if it’s unpatriotic or masochistic (or both) but I’m almost hopeful that the big decisions are taken out of our hands, given how we’ve repeatedly demonstrated our inability to either elect or run a government.
Take today’s main news headline as a classic example.
The answer to all our problems, the solution to unemployment, the secret to creating 300,000 jobs is to form a super-duper quango.
We’ve learned absolutely nothing from the past 13 years.
FF have yet to encounter a problem they haven’t tried to solve by firing truckloads of our money at it.
I can see where fellas are coming from when the likely timescale of a FG/LB govt is discussed.
The 80s wouldn’t fill you with confidence as to their compatibility.
On the other hand, FF are so despised (ignoring for a minute the 24% core vote) that they’ll have no choice but to work together, since a grand socialist alliance of LB/SF/SP/IND won’t have anywhere near the numbers required for a Dáil majority.
It’s the complete lack of vision, ambition or even good old fashioned Machiavellian ruthlessness that annoys me most.
How can Kenny not be at least twice as popular as he is? He’s been sitting opposite Cowen or Ahern for the best part of a decade, 2 Taoisigh who will be reviled and ridiculed when our grandkids get around to learning their recent Irish history, and he still can’t land a single blow?
The man is an icon for impotence.
He can’t even withdraw from a pairing arrangement without making a balls of it.
Not to mention the arrogance and complacency of a man who seems perfectly happy to bide his time, waiting for his shot at the big office at the end of the corridor. The country going down the proverbial drain while he waits doesn’t seem to matter a jot once Buggins gets his turn.
Contrast that with the red corner, where we’ve Comrade Gilmore, with a basic plan of “say nothing and offend nobody” and consequently we can have no idea what his or his party’s policies are. Unless you count “get-FF-out!” (shakes fist) as a policy.
The whole thing is absurd, a lesson in futility scripted by Beckett and acted by Macra na Feirme.
Bring on the IMF/ECB. We’re at 6.7% for 10yr debt and that’s before the final Anglo cost is made known and AIB gets nationalised.
5% loans and a change of government, not to mention dismantling the corrupt little empire FF have built up using the largesse from a once-in-a-lifetime boom that could instead have revolutionised a small, green, sparsely populated island on the western edge of Europe with a history of emigration and economic stagnation. What’s not to like?