It’s not with what I expect of them. I don’t think they merit their ranking, too much is taken into account of friendly wins and wins over poor sides. Rankings should generally be based on tournament performances.
You’ve said numerous times you don’t agree with the rankings system and are simultaneously defending the ranking system.
Usually I’d have fucked off by now but I’m genuinely fascinated with this line of thinking.
They’ve got to the knockout rounds of the last 3 tournaments. What other European sides have done that? They’re obviously not the 8th best team in the world but they are very consistent in recent years
I’m defending the one part of the ranking system that actually makes sense i.e. that the system is based on results rather than who people decide are better. No contradiction at all
They’ve exited in the last sixteen on all three occassions and have failed to make the last 8 of a major tournament in 64 years.
I think that is proof they are not one of the top 8 teams in the world. Germany not being in the top 8 of the world rankings right now is absurd.
Where have I said it should be based on who I think is better?
Germany won one competitive game in 2018, a last minute winner too. How long should they be given leeway to have bad results?
Your original post was blaming the ranking system for Switzerland and Denmark being ahead of Germany and Holland. What would be your justification for those teams to be ahead of Switzerland and Denmark other than them being traditionally strong teams?
My initial post said the rankings system was shit. Which you’ve agreed with. I used the illustration that Holland and Germany are better teams than Switzerland and Denmark which you’ve agreed with.
I didn’t blame the rankings system. I said it was flawed, which you’ve agreed with, numerous times.
You, literally, are all over the shop here pal.
I don’t see your point.
Germany had a bad World Cup. The Swiss had a very average one.
In the preceding tournaments before that, Germany were champions in one, semi finalists in the other and the Swiss were very average in theirs.
The rankings put way too much stock in relatively meaningless games. It should not be predicated to friendly wins or wins over dud nations as much as it is. It should primarily be based on past performances in major tournaments.
Forget the fact Germany have one won competitive game in 2018. They were World Champions 4 years ago, European semi finalists two years, they qualified for the World Cup last year. The Nations League is a novelty competition so effectively Germany played 3 competitive games in 2018 and won one. Switzerland played 4 competitive games in 2018 and won one. The only team who Germany beat in 2018 happened to knock Switzerland out of the World Cup.
Forget it mate
He’s defending a system he doesn’t agree with against an argument I didn’t make.
It’s like shooting a fish in a barrel
Its hilarious that you keep saying that I am all over the shop when your opinion is so ridiculous. There is no evidence in results that Germany and Netherlands are better than Switzerland or Denmark. It is your opinion and my opinion that they are. The ranking system cannot be based on opinion, it is based on results as it should be, Germany shouldn’t get an easier draw than Switzerland for example just because they are traditionally a better team or because people think they are a better team
Denmark.
Thanks for the correction mate. Are you going to answer my post or are you going to keep deflecting from your ridiculous opinion?
That’s just your opinion on the Nations League. All teams involved took it seriously
My opinion that the ranking system is flawed that you agree with?
Did they?
Italy tried out 28 players in 4 games, Portugal left their all time leading scorer and greatest ever player out of their squad entirely and that’s just one group.
There’s not a great deal of incentive on offer in it at all. It’s a novelty tournament that was brought in as international friendlies garner very little interest. It was a chance for management to experiment with their teams before the qualifying started.
You can agree that something is flawed while also accepting that it is good in some ways. This is simple stuff. You disagree with basically the only bit of the world rankings that makes sense, that it is based on results
It isn’t based on results. I put up the link. It is based on weighting for certain matches, whether a team is expected to beat their opponent or not etc etc.
For example, if Netherlands beat Switzerland they don’t get as many points because of past success, than if Switzerland beat the Netherlands.
Absolute farcical stuff from you here.
You’re defending something you don’t agree with against an argument I didn’t make on a point you know absolutely nothing about.
I think Fernando Santos took his lesson from the Euro 2016 final and saw that they were better without Ronaldo, and they qualified in first. Italy tried so many players mainly because the players they had weren’t performing. Their best players, Chiellini, Bonucci, Insigne and Jorginho played in 3 out of 4 of the games