Since when are clubs restricted to signing players solely from the country they represent? English clubs often line out with no English players but are still regarded as representing England.
I thought you paid more attention to the souls of clubs than the employees?
THAts a huge oooooooffftt 
The master of hypocrisy strikes again
Which is why I’d be off once Conte goes.
I won’t leave Roma depending on who manages them.
I don’t think an English club with no English players winning a game is a good night for English sport
Well at least they’d be representing England in that competition
That doesn’t make sense. You said you pay more attention to the soul of clubs than the employees, and then you said you would stop supporting Chelsea if one of their employees left
It makes sense.
I have a bond with Roma, not with Chelsea. I hope Chelsea do well as long as Conte is there. I hope Roma will always do well.
I was there, I am there, I always will be there, through victory or defeat - never a slave to the result.
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So you’re supporting them because of one of their employees, not their soul. You completely contradicted yourself in the space of about a minute
I have not.
I have laid out the differences.
Think of it like a beautiful woman, one you are deeply in love with and want to spend your whole life with and one who you are currently seeing and having a good time with but whom you really can’t envisage any long term prospects with.
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That’s how he rolls.
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I think you make a number of fair points within that but I think you’re generally too accepting of the situation.
I think we should have a better defence and goalkeeper at this stage of the team’s development and given Rodgers is here for nearly two seasons now. It’s a bit of a recurring theme with his management from his Liverpool days too.
I’m not denying that budget coupled with Scotland doesn’t make recruitment challenging but we’re not without attractive points too (even for cunts who want to use us as a stepping stone to the EPL).
Even with some restrictions in terms of who we can sign, the lack of resilience / character / defensive shape / solidity away from home in Europe is beyond frustrating at this stage. We should be better drilled and able to withstand some pressure without a few individuals crumbling.
I agree with most of that. (If only the rest of TFK could be so civil in their discourse).
I do think most lines of the team have improved under Rodgers when you compare to what he inherited, as opposed to comparing this season to last season.
Gordon is Gordon. I thought Rodgers would be tempted by the Chelsea offer for him last season because he never seemed convinced by him but seemingly not. I do think he’d be easiest to replace if/when we decide to because there is an abundance of good goalkeepers around various leagues and not many of them want to be overpaid backups in England.
The regular back 4 he inherited was Lustig - Boyata - Ambrose - Tierney. Even Simunovic is an upgrade over Ambrose. Hopefully with Ajer and maybe Hendry and Commper we are beginning to address the centre back position but it does need more sorting out. Simunovic should be cashed in on if there are offers. He’s slow and prone to error, gives away too many free kicks and isn’t dominating enough. Lustig wasn’t a problem player to inherit but he’s regressed. Still an ok backup (because of his versatility as much as anything) but I don’t think Ralston is ready yet.
The midfield then featured Johansen, GMS and Commons along with Bitton regularly. And better players like Brown and Armstrong who continue to play. I think we’ve improved that hugely. Ntcham is an excellent player. Armstrong and McGregor have improved massively. Roberts wasn’t really playing but now with Roberts, Sinclair, the rejuvenation of Forrest and Musonda we’re a far better midfield.
It’s the same story up front. Griffiths and Edouard and Dembele is better than Griffiths and Ciftci and Kazim. (Kazim played 11 league games for us in 2015/16!)
I guess I’m not sure where I’m going with that - except to say we have improved, even in defence. They didn’t look good in their two legs but they’re not a bad team, not as bad as Sutton was making out. They had 4 or 5 players who cost €15m-€20m in that team tonight. They have a decent manager too.
We didn’t acquit ourselves well tonight. We have a fundamental confidence and concentration/composure issue when we’re put under pressure. Some of that is down to the players we have not being good enough when they’ve to make the step up. The more concerning bit is the repetitive nature of it and how it seems to affect nearly everyone.
But I thought we had the right system tonight. I don’t think they carved us open. They had a long shot, resulting in a corner and a goal. Absolutely needs to be addressed. Another long shot and a goal. And then a harmless looking low cross and another goal. I thought Brown was too indisciplined in protecting the back 4 tonight, but he probably had to push on a little. I thought Ntcham was poor for the third goal in not reacting to the breaking ball from Ajer’s half clearance. But otherwise we were solid enough in terms of having enough players back in the right positions. We just made dreadful errors.
Just as well you and @Nembo_Kid didn’t cross paths. He was a staunch supporter of Brendan. Reckoned he was a great manager. Better than Klopp even.
Armstrong is shit and should be cashed in on.
Roberts is gone next season and the fairly hefty fee we spent to take him on loan for another season has been a waste of money given he has played only around 10 games this season with just the one goal, it could be a similar situation with Musonda. The season is now more or less done, we have the league more or less wrapped up and a few more cup ties.
Dembele, Armstrong, Boyata, Simunovic, Sinclair all have regressed significantly this season. Lustig has been hopeless for 18 months now and is still a regular fixture in the side. Forrest is really the only player you can say kicked on this year.
People may also remember Deila had a very satisfactory first season until things began to slide. His side put up a much better fight over two legs against Inter than Rodgers side did tonight.
Did he?
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I don’t know why I’m going to bother, but sometimes posts are just so badly wrong they need to be addressed.
Armstrong is not shit. I’d wager you could count on one hand the number of Celtic games you’ve watched this season.
Roberts has been injured. That’s not really a “waste of money.” That’s what happens sometimes in football. The same could happen with Musonda? Of course it could. It could happen with anyone.
The season for you seems to be all about the European ties. Yet you didn’t watch most of them. Very odd.
You’re comparing one leg of a tie versus two legs of a tie for no good reason at all. Celtic were poor away to Inter that year. It was very comfortable for them after GMS had the early miss. But that was a good performance from Celtic. It’s not in any way a representative benchmark of how Celtic performed under Deila. They were brutal in Europe for the most part.
Armstrong is shit, just like Lustig, he is another extremely mediocre player with very obvious limitations who you fawn over.
Roberts has had no impact on this season, a complete waste of money because he won’t be back next season.
This season is generally all about European ties as the last manager was driven out the door with universal approval from pretty much everybody for winning two titles in two seasons.
I’m comparing the merits of a manager who was hounded out (which I agreed with) and the manager who you are attempting to cut some slack from very valid criticism.
Celtic were knocked out by Inter by a goal despite playing most of the second leg with 10 men. You were trying to absolve Rodgers from blame because he bought an invalid to be our no.1 keeper.
Celtic have been brutal for the most part under Rodgers in Europe.
They’re not similar at all. One is a veteran on the way out. One is a young player who is still improving. They both have limitations. That’s the way it’s going to be with most players, particularly ones who want to play in the SPL.
It’s kind of irrelevant. He’s been injured.
- The previous manager won 1 league cup. Rodgers has won 2.
- He won 0 Scottish cups. He didn’t even get to a final. He lost to a really shit Sevco side in one of the only important games of the season. Rodgers has won 1 already.
- He didn’t go through an entire season domestically unbeaten.
- He qualified for 0 Champions Leagues group stages. Rodgers has qualified for 2.
I’m finished with this now. You’re a moron.
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They’re both shit, go with some young lads from the academy who have as much football in them. You have some sort of bizarre fascination with both players which doesn’t let you see their glaring limitations.
We paid a significant fee for a temporary signing who we have little hope of securing long term. It’s very relevant that we’re up shit creek if he picks up a long term injury and his worth to the team as a result is negligible
Oh so league cups is now what it’s all about? Being humiliated in the CL is what it’s all about? Going a season unbeaten domestically but taking a 7-0 tanking and losing to an amateur team from a geological structure are fine?
There’s no doubt that Rodgers had a great first season, the fact is he’s had a stinker of a second season, something Deila got the door for. He needs 25 points from a remaining 33 to meet the points total that Deila got pushed out the door with.
Deila had to cope with losing key players like Foster and Van Dijk in both his seasons in charge. Rodgers has not had that problem and try to replace them with lesser likes. Deila had to record both seasons with a transfer surplus, Rodgers has racked up transfer deficits in both seasons.
I still don’t think Rodgers has been backed accordingly but it’s very obvious that he’s received a hell of a lot more backing that any Celtic manager since MON did in his first two seasons. If Rodgers was judged under the same lens Deila was, he would be getting a much tougher ride now than he is. Tonight was a complete and utter embarrassment, it was spineless, gutless and powderpuff and the manager should be coming in for a lot of criticism, but valid criticism is to be struck off the agenda when it comes to Rodgers with you.
You would lap up any sort of shit he would throw at you like a gleeful golden retriever.
You moron.