Correct, you might lose a box room (bedroom)and gain nothing because if you dont have the proper head height you wont be able to advertise as a bedroom if selling.So now you have a 2 bed semi with some attic space.
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Not to mention fire regulations for a 3rd storey.
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I don’t plan on selling at any point in the next 15/20 years.
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Whats the realistic lifetime of one of them garden rooms do you know?
I’m surprised at you oul’ stock. I thought you’d be the one to suggest dropping in 2 X 40’ containers, a nice bit of stonework on the outside, drylining, a bit of heating and plumbing and change out of €20k.
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Depends… if I built a timber frame and cladded the outside I’d expect 20-25 years tbh and if you need to build again you already have the foundation and floor so for me it’s a no brainer
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Jesus, id say it was the best thing we ever did with the house, least intrusive anyway
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Another thing that people forget is the storage space you lose converting the loft space
I think we did a good job, we have two cubby doors on the attic leading to good storage space,
We also built a bed into the box room over the stairs to make the floor space much bigger,
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I know a lad who does them all the time now and he has a method using glulam beams… he has an engineer who will certify it
A question on this - I have an end of terrace semi d. There is an existing space for the stairwell as it is over two levels with plenty of dead/fallow space upstairs. I assume a stairs could easily be accommodate here on the right hand side rather than having to sacrifice a bedroom.
Stairs could be accommodated there. We are end of terrace semi D too. We got it done in 21. A great job.
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You’d deffo get a stairs in there. Is your hot press to the right of those railings? If you don’t need to move the boiler it saves your existing rooms and money. Are you in an estate? Ask around neighbours if they’ve got there’s done. Lad who lives behind us did 8 houses in our estate so knew the house layouts and did ours for cash 20k. We got two velux windows and no toilet/shower as enough downstairs. We did the extras like painting and panelling and carpets. Make sure you get the internet wired up to it by the sparky. Despite our plan being a double office/tv room, it was that big we moved both kids up there and it’s game changer.
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I used the opportunity to fuck out a lot of stuff that was sitting in the attic for years
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Getting the bathroom revamped tomorrow. Went up to the attic today to tidy it up as I knew the builders will have to do some work up there.
The young lads, who have their own houses at this stage, sneak stuff up there as it has a loft board floor, instead of putting it in their own attic.
The amount of sh1t is unreal.
If there’s any room left in the skip after the builders, it’s going in there. Guitars and all.
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Not sure it that was meant for me.
The stuff they throw in the attic is all good stuff. Memorabilia or just stuff gone out of fashion. Like kitchen stuff that just isn’t the right colour any more. Old sports gear, jerseys, t-shirts. Surround sound sound systems that they no longer want and of course the guitars.
Lots of stuff relating to old girlfriends. Framed photos of them both that can’t be displayed any more. Frames perfect, photos, not so much any more. House clear-outs after breakups.
I’ve posted before about Right To Repair Europe. The problem isn’t your right to repair as such. It’s forcing manufacturers to design products that can be easily repaired. Easily changeable batteries. Wear parts being made available as spare parts. Items that can be opened easily with screws, not solid welded together. Software updates in relation to obsoleting older hardware is now also a major problem.
But this of course leads to less profits for the manufacturer. So it needs to be pushed into force at a high level in Europe. America as you might guess is a serious problem area.
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I need some general advice again. I posted before that I was getting the upstairs bathroom done.
The builder doing the bathroom insisted on using his own electrician. Made some mess of the wiring. But he installed the vent fan in the attic and just ran a flexible tube thing under the insulation into the eves. Is that generally regarded as acceptable in the trade or should I complain that it’s not vented with a rigid insulated pipe to the outside?
These things annoy me. A job not being done properly. I know what the regulation is but in practice what is acceptable? @FatChops are you our expert here? I try to get on with people and have a hassle free life. And realise having to mount an external vent is going to eat into his profits.
Genuine answers only please.
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It’s a tricky one. The vents are generally sold without ducting, absolving manufacturers of any issues with performance thereafter. If you read the manual they will quote specs based on a particular configuration.
A short, straight run is best, no sag,no bends. They used install with a sag to avoid condensed moisture running back inside, the thinking being any pooled condensate would evaporate over time.
Rigid ducting if you can realise it is the way to go, but with a retrofit the vent is usually fitted in wherever is possible… not optimum.
Ceiling vents to the eaves are generally a poor choice… you’re immediately into a right angle which limits airflow. Under the insulation… I wouldn’t… but I suppose he’s thinking the warm steam will travel further?
You’re providing the materials so if you want it done a certain way you’d have to describe that up front would be my take.
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I did actually supply the extractor as the one he supplied wasn’t timed. So I bought the right one. His quote says ‘duct out’ but he doesn’t say duct out to where.
From your experience does the water vapour accumulate and cause problems generally. Personally I always open the windows when having a shower. 90% of the time the light and extractor would be on would be for non-shower use.
So is it worth my while complaining.