GAA Clichés and Dublin Legends

Again, not a cliche but another thing that crops up in the GAA when reviewing/previewing games:

The focus on whether a team was tested or had a close game in their run to date.

Does it matter if you’ve been hammering teams? Do you necessarily need to have a game where you play relatively shit and win narrowly? Does any other sport hone in on this to the same extent?

Carlo Ancellotti: “Yeah, 'tis a great place to be…winning a semi-final in a penalty shoot-out like that. We got a severe test out there, it’s great to come through it and that’ll definitely stand to us. We know we’ll need to improve an awful lot and Bayern will be favourites in the final no doubt. But we’ll get back to training on Tuesday morning and sure 'tis great to have the final to look forward to.”

[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 999582, member: 9”]Again, not a cliche but another thing that crops up in the GAA when reviewing/previewing games:

The focus on whether a team was tested or had a close game in their run to date.

Does it matter if you’ve been hammering teams? Do you necessarily need to have a game where you play relatively shit and win narrowly? Does any other sport hone in on this to the same extent?

Carlo Ancellotti: “Yeah, 'tis a great place to be…winning a semi-final in a penalty shoot-out like that. We got a severe test out there, it’s great to come through it and that’ll definitely stand to us. We know we’ll need to improve an awful lot and Bayern will be favourites in the final no doubt. But we’ll get back to training on Tuesday morning and sure 'tis great to have the final to look forward to.”[/QUOTE]

it is just expressed differently. Focus on performance and not result and then results all that matter - sign of champions “playing badly and winning”

In football the teams are more easily stratified - Big 4, top half, Premier League so the descriptions rely on that

In world cup because teams are less easily stratified you will hear pundits referring to teams not being tested yet, haven’t learned much about themselves from a performance or hammering a team

Difference in GAA seems to be that hammering a team is always regarded as a bad thing.

[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 999582, member: 9”]Again, not a cliche but another thing that crops up in the GAA when reviewing/previewing games:

The focus on whether a team was tested or had a close game in their run to date.

Does it matter if you’ve been hammering teams? Do you necessarily need to have a game where you play relatively shit and win narrowly? Does any other sport hone in on this to the same extent?

Carlo Ancellotti: “Yeah, 'tis a great place to be…winning a semi-final in a penalty shoot-out like that. We got a severe test out there, it’s great to come through it and that’ll definitely stand to us. We know we’ll need to improve an awful lot and Bayern will be favourites in the final no doubt. But we’ll get back to training on Tuesday morning and sure 'tis great to have the final to look forward to.”[/QUOTE]

You only really know the weaknesses in a team when they are run close/beaten.
Carlo’s teams will have played 40+ domestic & European games at that stage so he’ll know them well enough.

[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 999582, member: 9”]Again, not a cliche but another thing that crops up in the GAA when reviewing/previewing games:

The focus on whether a team was tested or had a close game in their run to date.

Does it matter if you’ve been hammering teams? Do you necessarily need to have a game where you play relatively shit and win narrowly? Does any other sport hone in on this to the same extent?

Carlo Ancellotti: “Yeah, 'tis a great place to be…winning a semi-final in a penalty shoot-out like that. We got a severe test out there, it’s great to come through it and that’ll definitely stand to us. We know we’ll need to improve an awful lot and Bayern will be favourites in the final no doubt. But we’ll get back to training on Tuesday morning and sure 'tis great to have the final to look forward to.”[/QUOTE]

surely its better to come out the right side of a tight game than hammering a team where the intensity is gone out of the game by the start of second half … for a start match fitness is the hardest fitness to get and you only get that from coming through tight games and having to go full tilt for full game…

“Croke Park makes no difference to me, it’s a green field.”

“He will have a sore hand tomorrow given all the ball he was allowed catch”

“He will have a sore arms today given all the ball he was allowed clear”

[QUOTE=“chewy louie, post: 1002560, member: 1137”]“He will have a sore hand tomorrow given all the ball he was allowed catch”

“He will have a sore arms today given all the ball he was allowed clear”[/QUOTE]

Chewy you need to hang up the boots if fellas are getting that much ball off you.

Glas on the other hand eagerly gives up a huge amount of ball to one special man.

“Tipp wont fear Kilkenny” revelation by Mullane in the Indo today. Profound stuff as usual.

Joe Cooney 1998 Clare v offaly

In tent city.

[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 999582, member: 9”]Again, not a cliche but another thing that crops up in the GAA when reviewing/previewing games:

The focus on whether a team was tested or had a close game in their run to date.

Does it matter if you’ve been hammering teams? Do you necessarily need to have a game where you play relatively shit and win narrowly? Does any other sport hone in on this to the same extent?

Carlo Ancellotti: “Yeah, 'tis a great place to be…winning a semi-final in a penalty shoot-out like that. We got a severe test out there, it’s great to come through it and that’ll definitely stand to us. We know we’ll need to improve an awful lot and Bayern will be favourites in the final no doubt. But we’ll get back to training on Tuesday morning and sure 'tis great to have the final to look forward to.”[/QUOTE]
I didn’t hear one person say that the 7-1 would be a negative for Germany going into the final. That would have been a disaster in gaa. ‘Flying in training’ is another obvious one. It’s comical to imagine it being said in a soccer context but as Julio says its all to do with having less actual games to go on.

Under 21 hurling:

The 6 and a half week gap since the Leinster Final had a negative impact on Wexford’s performance yesterday.

But Galway were adversely affected by not having any competitive games at all before yesterday.

Clare didn’t learn anything from their game yesterday and that match wasn’t worth anything to them. They really needed a test before the final, especially since their last game was a rout too.

[QUOTE=“Bartosz Bereszynskiego, post: 1005294, member: 9”]Under 21 hurling:

The 6 and a half week gap since the Leinster Final had a negative impact on Wexford’s performance yesterday.

But Galway were adversely affected by not having any competitive games at all before yesterday.

Clare didn’t learn anything from their game yesterday and that match wasn’t worth anything to them. They really needed a test before the final, especially since their last game was a rout too.[/QUOTE]
Galway suffer from not being in Leinster at u-21 level.

Mattie Murphy however would be of the strong belief that going into Leinster at senior level has done nothing for Galway hurling.

not a cliche per se but RTE usually trawl out this line as Marty Morrissey masturbates over an image of Brendan Bugler celebrating winning a free on some radio commentary every year
" there was a team from Fox/ESPN/BBC next to us and they just couldnt get over what an amazing game hurling is, the passion, drama, speed…" fuck off

why is the next score vital?

They had an 11 a side hurling match at half time in the College Football yesterday. All inter county hurlers, but fucked if I could catch their names. Nicky Quaid was one and Lee Chin was another. Donal Og was doing a running commentary with some geebag of an announcer and gave up the quintessential GAA cliche. These players are all amateurs and play the game for the love of their county. They live the life of a professional train 7 days a week but they still hold down regular jobs.

Jaysus it’s so fucking twee listening to that shite. If their was a market that would sustain professional hurling, the players would drop their amateur status in a heartbeat. And rightly so.

Anyway driving down to Dunmore afterwards and listening to the Kerry match. Goes to extra time. Cue Spillane - don’t forget these players are all amateurs and play the game for the love of their counties.

As an aside, Donal Og was asked by geebag announcer what were the core skills required for hurling. Well the first one is great hand eye coordination. The very second he is saying this, the goalkeeper who wasn’t Nicky Quaid drops a howler into the back of the net.

“The team who learns more from the drawn game will win the replay.”

“More heartbreak for Mayo.” (In fairness you could substitute a lot of counties for Mayo, there.)

“It’s great to win today but it means nothing if we don’t win the final.”

[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 1008862, member: 706”]They had an 11 a side hurling match at half time in the College Football yesterday. All inter county hurlers, but fucked if I could catch their names. Nicky Quaid was one and Lee Chin was another. Donal Og was doing a running commentary with some geebag of an announcer and gave up the quintessential GAA cliche. These players are all amateurs and play the game for the love of their county. They live the life of a professional train 7 days a week but they still hold down regular jobs.

Jaysus it’s so fucking twee listening to that shite. If their was a market that would sustain professional hurling, the players would drop their amateur status in a heartbeat. And rightly so.

Anyway driving down to Dunmore afterwards and listening to the Kerry match. Goes to extra time. Cue Spillane - don’t forget these players are all amateurs and play the game for the love of their counties.

As an aside, Donal Og was asked by geebag announcer what were the core skills required for hurling. Well the first one is great hand eye coordination. The very second he is saying this, the goalkeeper who wasn’t Nicky Quaid drops a howler into the back of the net.[/QUOTE]
You’re right that they’d drop the amateur status if they could but surely it’s worth pointing out to an international audience. I could be wrong but I don’t think amateur sport, with the crowds and dedication put into GAA, is played is played many other places beyond underage and college level.
It is said too much in the context of the Spillane example though. I think everyone in Ireland knows it by now.

[QUOTE=“Tabby, post: 1008865, member: 2142”]You’re right that they’d drop the amateur status if they could but surely it’s worth pointing out to an international audience. I could be wrong but I don’t think amateur sport, with the crowds and dedication put into GAA, is played is played many other places beyond underage and college level.
It is said too much in the context of the Spillane example though. I think everyone in Ireland knows it by now.[/QUOTE]

‘Amateur’ is such a dreadful term to use when describing your own athletes though. It conjures up all the wrong images.