Gaa nhl 2012

So the powers that be have stuck to the original structure that will see the top team from Division 1A qualifying for the semi-final to play the winner of the top two teams from Division 1B. The other semi will be between the second and third place teams from Division 1A.

To me it sounds like this is more to keep the current 1A teams happy should they be relegated. The GAA have missed a trick here again. In order to increase the standard and competitive nature of hurling the lower counties need to be playing against those of a higher standard. The experience of Wexford and Clare for the last few years proves this.

The only tweak the old system really needed was to change promotion/relegation between Division 1 and 2 to two teams up/down at the end of the season. In that way the third tier of teams, Carlow, Laois, etc could harbour some hope at getting themselves promoted to Division once they get their house in order and the second tier of teams, Wexford, Clare, Offaly, Limerick would only have themselves to blame for spending more than a single year in the lower division.

It would do nothing for hurling in the strong counties to be playing matches against the weaker counties. The likes of Linerick and Wexford are reaping what they’ve sown here, bollixing around for years with strikes and rows and doing nothing at underage level and frankly making a fucking joke of league hurling. It’s a pity that Cork haven’t been consigned to the dungeon with them.

Very short-sighted view there Fagan. You’d prefer to see six counties battling it out every year and the remainder drifting further away from them then?

Wexford and Limerick earned their right to sit at the top table of the NHL next year. Rest assured if Cork had finished below Wexford then Cooney would have delayed the restructuring another 12 months.

Yeah I’d prefer to see six counties going at it full tilt than 12 counties going at it halfheartedly and generally pricking around. Hurling has a better chance of survival that way.

Surely the aim is to have 12 counties going at it full tilt. That way the competition is served best and we won’t have every title won by one of two counties battling it out for a five-year period as we’ve had for more or less the last 11 years.

What will they do now that there are only 5 sides in division 1B or was Limerick’s threat just bravado

No the threat is legit, Limerick won’t be hurling in Division 1B next year.

We haven’t had any strikes in Wexford Fagan, we have fuck all to strike about.

Here Fagan.

Go fuck yourself.

The only way hurling will survive is to have it thriving in as many counties as possible.

I’m pretty sure hurling will survive anyway, provided two teams are willing to take to a field…

It won’t survive by wasting scarce resources like money and good coaches on counties who can’t be bothered to scratch their own arses. [quote=“Julio Geordio, post: 627540”]

Here Fagan.

Go fuck yourself.

The only way hurling will survive is to have it thriving in as many counties as possible.

Limerick Cunts :guns:

Angry exchanges as ‘Gang of Eight’ lose out in bid to hijack new league format

Thursday October 13 2011

ANGER over how eight top hurling counties attempted to overturn a decision – taken less than two months ago – led to feisty exchanges at Tuesday’s Central Council meeting, while it has also emerged that the fear of a challenge to the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA) played a major role in the addition of semi-finals to the new format.
The ‘Gang of Eight’ – comprised of Cork, Dublin, Galway, Kilkenny, Limerick, Tipperary, Waterford and Wexford – sought the scrapping of the six-team Division 1A and Division 1B format, which had been voted in by Central Council in August, in favour of a return to the system featuring eight teams in both Division 1 and Division 2 that applied for the past few seasons.
However, the ‘Gang of Eight’ were rebuffed by other counties, who were also critical of them for holding what were termed “caucus meetings”. This referred to various get-togethers in recent weeks where strategy was discussed.
Limerick were challenged over a report that they were considering withdrawing from next year’s league if, having won promotion to Division 1 this year, they weren’t in the top flight for 2012. One delegate claimed that Limerick could be accused of bringing the GAA into disrepute.
“The eight counties involved were looking after their own interests. Some of them voted for the change in August but changed their tune since,” said one Central Council delegate.
"The manner the eight went about getting their own way did not go down well with a lot of counties, who regarded it as elitist.
“Nor were they best pleased with having to come to a meeting in Croke Park on a Tuesday night. They had thought they’d settled on the league format in August, only to find it challenged by the so-called superpowers.”
There was little support for the ‘Gang of Eight’, but changes were still made to the format which was accepted in August because of a fear that it could be challenged under rule and brought before the DRA.
The GAA had legal advice that unless they added semi-finals to Division 1 of the NHL, a case might have been sustainable if taken to the DRA. That arose from a Central Council decision last November to make provision for the return of semi-finals to both the hurling and football leagues (straight finals between the top two were played for the last few years).
Central Council voted in August to restore semi-finals to Division 1 of the NFL but opted for a straight final in hurling. It’s understood that the ‘Gang of Eight’ were considering challenging the latter before the DRA if their proposal to restore the format which applied for the last few years was not accepted.
As a compromise, semi-finals will now also apply in hurling (Division 1 only), featuring the top team in 1A against the winners of 1B, while second and third in 1A also meet. That will necessitate the 1B final (winners to be promoted to 1A) playing off before the Division 1 semi-finals.
The unseemly row is one of the most divisive in hurling for a long time and arose following a review of the NHL. Three proposals were put to Congress in August, with two proposing a 12-county Division 1 (six each in 1A and 1B). One proposal included quarter-finals/semi-finals while the other, which was accepted, proposed straight finals.
However, the six Division 1A counties (Cork, Dublin, Galway, Kilkenny, Tipperary, Waterford) plus Limerick and Wexford (1B) subsequently got together to oppose the decision, while calling for a return to the eight-team Divisions 1 and 2 which had applied for a few years.
Wexford were disappointed that, having held onto top-flight status this year, they would be in Division 1B under the new system, while Limerick argued that it was unfair to ask them to remain in the lower grouping after they won the Division 2 title.
The other six complained that the new system cut their guaranteed quota of games from seven to five, contending that it was bad for hurling from a competitive, promotional and financial viewpoint.
However, the ‘Gang of Eight’ – not all of whom originally voted against the six-team format – angered many other counties over their failure to raise their concerns in advance of the August meeting and their subsequent attempt to change a democratic decision.
Reports that they were considering taking a DRA case further alienated them. However, the eventual outcome is something of a compromise.
The new system will mean that one team in Division 1A (fourth-placed) will have only five games but the rest are guaranteed a minimum of six, while two may have seven outings.
The top three counties will be involved in the knockout race for the final, with the bottom two battling it out to decide who drops down into Division 1B.
It remains to be seen how long the new format remains in place but, on the evidence of the last 15 years, the prospects of it surviving for more than two seasons are slim.

Good to see the powers that be putting Limerick back in their place for their insubordination towards the National Hurling League.

Enjoy the two home games against Antrim and Laois gentlemen.

We are Limerick and we’ll do what we like, we deserve our place at the top table and will not dine out with minnows like Clare and Westmeath…

The ‘gang of eight’ were left sitting on their holes for a finish.

Any word from Mike O’Riordan?

Spike is devising a cunning plan even as we speak.

Rebels take on Déise in opener

JIMMY BARRY-MURPHY’S Cork have been pencilled in to start their 2012 Allianz Hurling League Division 1A campaign at home to Waterford.

Cork are provisionally scheduled to take on Michael Ryan’s side on Sunday, February 26 followed by a trip to Dublin on Sunday, March 11 and the hosting of Galway on March 18.

It is anticipated the league will conclude with the visit of Kilkenny on March 25 and an away date with Tipperary on April 1.

Waterford face a difficult start to Division 1A with the opener away to Cork preceding All-Ireland champions Kilkenny (home) and then Tipperary (away).

In a repeat of this year’s final, Kilkenny and Tipperary are set to meet in round one at Nowlan Park on February 26.

Tipperary are in line to play Dublin on Saturday, March 24 with the game possibly forming part of the Allianz Spring Series at Croke Park.

[b]Meanwhile, Limerick and Clare are expected to open up Division 1B under lights at the Gaelic Grounds.

The game has been provisionally set for Saturday, February 25, although there is a possibility that the round one fixture could take place on the night before.

Speaking recently, GAA director general Paraic Duffy has not ruled out the possibility of Friday evening league games between neighbouring counties or those within the vicinity of one another.[/b]

Limerick are also shaping up to take on Offaly under lights on Saturday, March 24.

Next year’s Allianz Hurling League will start two weeks later than usual because of the smaller divisions — six teams next year as opposed to the previous eight.

Four of the five rounds in Division 1A and 1B are expected to take place on consecutive weekends in March and April.

Provisional 2012 Allianz Hurling League fixtures:

DIVISION 1A – February 26: Cork v Waterford, Galway v Dublin, Kilkenny v Tipperary;

March 11: Dublin v Cork, Tipperary v Galway, Waterford v Kilkenny

March 18: Cork v Galway, Kilkenny v Dublin, Tipperary v Waterford.

March 24: Dublin v Tipperary

March 25: Cork v Kilkenny, Galway v Waterford

April 1: Waterford v Dublin, Kilkenny v Galway, Tipperary v Cork.

DIVISION 1B – February 25: Limerick v Clare

February 26: Offaly v Laois, Antrim v Wexford

March 11: Clare v Antrim, Wexford v Offaly, Laois v Limerick

March 18: Offaly v Antrim, Wexford v Limerick, Laois v Clare.

March 24: Limerick v Offaly

March 25 Clare v Wexford, Antrim v Laois

April 1: Wexford v Laois, Offaly v Clare, Antrim v Limerick.

We always seem to open up v Tipp.

25th March :clap: :pints: :clap: :clap: :guns: :pints:

Friday night under lights in the GG would be a good idea.