General Election 2011

Really? What is that based on exactly - because by the looks of things you have only disagreed with one of my points (and only a bit of it). But still, I am sorry if I have upset you on the Bayern Man Utd point, but you really shouldn’t use other threads to transfer your anger.

Like most of your posts on here, you don’t really have any practical experience of what you are talking about apart from something you have read in a book. Yet, you try to come across as you are the definitive voice on it.

Of course it doesn’t matter where someone works, or what hours they work as long as it gets done but I have seen first hand where the system is being abused. Generally you always have the conscientous person in there who will get the job done and cover the slack of others. There is nothing wrong with a flexitime system which is properly monitored and ensures, as you said, that the job gets done but this is not happening in many cases from what I have seen.

Jaysus Runt thats a ton up post there, as in I agree with it 100%

Agree with both Runt and Farmer. One of the problems with the public service is that that guys at the top, the high paid lifers do not have the skills or the motivation to reform it. You would need to clear all the deadwood out and start again.

See who you actually agree with in terms of policies in this virtual vote

http://www.votomatic.ie/Home.aspx

For me it’s
SF 23
Labour 13
Green -6 :o
FF -15
FG -23

farmer, you surprise me. That was the most lazy and ill educated post ive ever seen from you. Its like a copy and paste job on a letter to the sindo. Do you even understand how flexi time works ?

is that post ethical from a man in your position? :lol:

Reform of the public sector is going to be immensely difficult regardless of what Varadkar or anyone else says. Despite what people may think, personnel at the top in the civil service have got their because of their political skills and connections as much as anything else. Public sector reform is eternally on the agenda but no rigorous detailed plans ever come to light because (1) the politicians need the top civil servants, and (2) they have no idea how to actually do it.

Public sector departments are rigid, heavily institutionalised organisations. In many ways this is a good thing and it is how government should be. The problem is it makes them deeply resistant to reform, and the short-term, rhetoric heavy schemes of election candidates don’t stand a chance. So what will happen, as happens everywhere, is that the frontline services will be hit.

People need to understand that it goes way beyond individuals, this is about the very character of governnment organisations. Until I see a politician actually display an understanding of this I hold no hope of real public sector reforms. And all the management consultants in the world won’t make a bit of difference.

Reforming the public sector will be like trying to eradicate doping in cycling.

You say management lack interest there and that’s a huge part of the problem. Management in the public service is based on grades not on suitability to the role. Ireland is obsessed with calling people managers when they gain experience but in reality they’re not managing anyone. This is particularly true in the public service where people are given responsibility based on skills and experience but they’re often not best placed to manage staff issues etc. So work practices just deteriorate and then become the norm and get union backing.

Labour 11
FG 10
Green 7
SF 7
FF -10

Labour 18
SF 16
GP 4
FG -6
FF -15

Holy Shit

Labour 13
Fine Gael 10
Greens 3
Sinn Fein -1
Fianna Fail -6

Labour 19
Sinn Fein 15
Greens 2
Fine Gael 0
Fianna Fail -11

Labour 2
Fine Gael 1
Fianna Fail 1
The Greens -2
Sinn Fein -4

:unsure:

Plenty of dont knows there I’d say Dunph :smiley:

Labour +4
Sinn Fein -2
Greens 0
Fine Gael +13
Fianna Fail -2

ff - 24
fg + 7
lab + 23
gn - 6
sf +16

There was a couple of questions i had no opinion on or had no relevance to me so i skipped them…

Indeed.

It’s all about attending meetings with these ‘managerial’ types, when in reality they are doing fuck all.

I do Art.

Maybe you can offer some counterpoints as to why it is lazy and ill educated?