Coach Klopp - dream maker

Given that you have now contradicted yourself, you are now deciding to backtrack over the earlier contradictory statement which currently contradicts your latest viewpoint.

The logic of a simpleton.

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Pep’s been there less than a year. A bit early to be writing him off

If you have 5 great coaches at 5 clubs competing in the same competition then define making a difference?

Southamton have an incredible club system and support structure.

Remains to be seen how Koeman goes at Everton but they are 2 i would think could be wildly successful with more money and players

Neither are English.

Quit avoiding the elephant in the room and tell us who are these English managers.

Hmmm, a few posts later you said these types were only getting jobs because they are English and white. Seems like the exact opposite of what you’re saying now.

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He doesn’t know whether he’s coming or going.

The contrarian halfwit.

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Yes if it was part of some grand plan. But tha does not seem to be the case. His whole demeanour says he is finding it unbelievably hard. Klopp the same.

Now he will probably be given time and money to sort things, but its been a fisaster to date and i think really exposed him in this light.

Nope.

I said foreign managers are iver rated and some are being exposed. And i was pointing out that maybe the silly Andy Gray comment about Messi on a tuesday in Stoke has merit.

You obviously only joined the conversation late. Go back to my original post.

Go check out the data.

However again, i would contend yes many jobs are got because of white englishness and its a merry-go-round. Much like GAA County managers. Get one job and you are in for life, almost noatter how shit you are.

The top 7 teams in the league are managed by foreign managers.

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How do you know what their plan is? Their demeanour is obviously going to be bad when they’re losing games

Nope, I fully understand the argument. Your post about Pulis struck me as odd at the time, that’s why it stuck in my mind. Say what you like about his style, and I’d say it must be painful for season ticket holders to watch it every week, but he’s far from a chancer. The style of play I think is important to the question of whether he’d do as relatively well with a big club expected to dominate and win most games. Was why I was sceptical of Moyes’s record at Everton being relevant to United job.

You could just say you’ve changed your mind by the way. It’s allowed.

Absolurely, i encourage change of mind always. I think its too nuanced though to say i now think he is wonderful. I don’t, i am forgetting specifics now but i do remember thinking/asking the question “why is he still playing this way” with the players he had.

As well as that, and i accept i may have been iverly harsh, but where is the promotion of other coaches. My point now as it was then, why back to the same guys.

Someone with a plan and backing will stay calm.

I think hos plan was to blow everyone away this year with something that was going to revolutionize the EPL.

And maybe all he got wrong was hos own sense of importance. He may yet revolutionize it, but i have my doubts.

He will fall out with important shareholders and find an ibvious blame candidate OR he will spend insane money to cover his mistakes.

Guardiola and Klopp are never calm. It just isn’t in their character to be calm. Of course that was his plan but just because it didn’t work doesn’t mean he won’t come back next season with something better. Wouldn’t call this season a disaster for them either. They have more than two points per game in the league

Pulis and Big Sam mug off the foreigners

Ah ffs. He had 1 of the 2 best squads by a mile and a load of money. Other teams figured him out unbelievably quick after what seemed like a good start.

Yeah it hasn’t been great but it’s not been a disaster either. They’ve played really well in bits and pieces, particularly when Gabriel Jesus was fit and I wouldn’t be surprised if they won the league next season with few enough changes to the squad

Who are these English/British managers?

A keeper, centre half, 2 midfielders and maybe a world class striker if Aguero goes.

A playmaker would be nice too.

Thats if they want to challenge both league and EPL.

Thats not going to be cheap.