IOTM made @The Big Cheese the internet behemoth he is today
@Il Bomber Destro for trying to argue that a world top 10 pound for pound boxer is not technically good.
WTF? Random posters cant go around organising IOTM contests, what a ball of shit.
It doesn’t need to be argued, it’s a fact.
Did you think Rino Gatusso was technically good?
I nominate bomber, the suggestion that half way thru a fight when “energy is equal” is a true measure of the ability and skills of a pugilist. It’s bizarre and very idiotic.
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1082684, member: 2533”]It doesn’t need to be argued, it’s a fact.
Did you think Rino Gatusso was technically good?[/QUOTE]
Yes he was
No, he wasn’t.
Remind me who you are again there lad…
You’re welcome pal
No it’s not, it’s actually retarded to state otherwise. Mistakes creep in when fatigue is a factor. Once again you are showing a complete lack of sporting knowledge, particularly in boxing. When fatigue hits you in boxing, your punches lose their power, you drop your hands, you leave your chin out.
Froch wears his opponents down and looks to capitalise on it. This is what Groves had to say about Froch’s “superb technique”.
George Groves has continued to stoke the fire ahead of his much-anticipated all-British rematch with Carl Froch this weekend after labelling the Cobra’s technique as “awful” just three days before the Wembley Stadium bout.
The pair has been engrossed in verbal jousting since Froch’s controversial win in November, where he stopped Groves despite being put down in the opening round.
Froch has earned a reputation for withstanding punishment but Groves claims his kamikaze approach could land him in more trouble should he repeat those tactics this weekend when the duo square off for the WBA and IBF World Super Middleweight titles.
“He is ignorant enough that if he is getting hit as long as he is landing something he will keep punching,” Groves told Sky Sports’ Behind The Ropes.
"Technically it’s terrible. It’s an awful, awful style you would never encourage a fighter to box that way, you would never encourage a young kid who’s just joined the gym to box like that.
"He is not a fighting man, he doesn’t stalk people, he doesn’t pressure fight, he doesn’t back people up with aggression. He likes to stand at long range flick out a jab and hope that switches his opponent off enough so that he can dive in gun-slinging punching from the hip, crossing his feet, after two three punches digging his heels in deep enough so he can keep punching.
"Every time he gets caught he wants to go and trade he only ever trades like that when he has no other options so again coming back to that warrior mentality. I feel like it’s a false truth because if he could sit and dance and look pretty then he would but he doesn’t have the ability to do that so it’s always back against the wall stuff with him. If you go back and look at his fights it’s always desperation and for that that’s the reason why you’ll see him fight the way he fights.
"If he wants to concentrate on the physical aspect and that he feels he can be physically superior or superior enough that he has won the fight before he enters the ring; I wish him luck. He’s eleven years older than me, he’s coming off the back of a horrific beating and if he trying to do something different and runs the risk of over training.
“He’s on his fight weight eight weeks out. You ask any world class fighter out there – that’s never a good idea. He can sit there and try and take confidence from the way I make weight, I might drop a couple of pounds the night before – it makes no blind a difference to me.”
So that’s an opponent who faced him saying the exact same thing as I did regarding Froch’s technique three years after I called you out on that ridiculous comment.
Bomber has just gone and won it. Lock the thread.
Remind you? I don’t recall telling you.
No need for the tetchiness either, I’m merely pointing out the IOTM was a wonderful thing, but random posters just cant go around setting up threads for it, its anarchy.
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1082822, member: 2533”]No it’s not, it’s actually retarded to state otherwise. Mistakes creep in when fatigue is a factor. Once again you are showing a complete lack of sporting knowledge, particularly in boxing. When fatigue hits you in boxing, your punches lose their power, you drop your hands, you leave your chin out.
Froch wears his opponents down and looks to capitalise on it. This is what Groves had to say about Froch’s “superb technique”.
So that’s an opponent who faced him saying the exact same thing as I did regarding Froch’s technique three years after I called you out on that ridiculous comment.[/QUOTE]
Remind us how that rematch worked out pal. Groves had one lucky fight and mouthed thereafter.
Froch won. I don’t think that has much bearing on Groves analysis of his technical shortcomings though.
One of the judges had Groves up 5 rounds to 2 in the second fight, the other two having Froch 4 rounds to 3 up before the KO.
I’ll reiterate what I said again, Froch relies on his chin, will, conditioning and power to win fights as his technical boxing skills are well below that what you’d expect of a world champion. He has the other qualities in an abundance and they compensate for his lack of technical skills.
A lot can be said of Groves ability to take a punch as well.
@Il Bomber Destro for not letting anything go, ever.
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1082857, member: 2533”]Froch won. I don’t think that has much bearing on Groves analysis of his technical shortcomings though.
One of the judges had Groves up 5 rounds to 2 in the second fight, the other two having Froch 4 rounds to 3 up before the KO.
I’ll reiterate what I said again, Froch relies on his chin, will, conditioning and power to win fights as his technical boxing skills are well below that what you’d expect of a world champion. He has the other qualities in an abundance and they compensate for his lack of technical skills.
A lot can be said of Groves ability to take a punch as well.[/QUOTE]
So you don’t need to be good at boxing, you just need a mullet of a head? ffs.
[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1082843, member: 180”]Remind you? I don’t recall telling you.
No need for the tetchiness either, I’m merely pointing out the IOTM was a wonderful thing, but random posters just cant go around setting up threads for it, its anarchy.[/QUOTE]
Time was right for it to come back. Like I said in the opening post, lets put it out there and see how hit goes. If @Bandage wants to pick his dodi back up off the ground and run with it from now on that’s fine by me. Bit of craic sure…
In certain cases, yes. Froch has one of the toughest chins in the history of boxing.
Fair enough, but I disagree fwiw.
Care to fill in the background to this for the younger generation of TFKers?