Amen. To that brother. I mean Awomen⌠sister
You havenât made any argument there
Self-pitying bluster isnât argument
Thereâs nothing to argue about. You make shit up and call it logic. This is a perfect case in point.
Farmer: I hate coppinger.
Snidey: Ha. You hate all women. Including Hilary Clinton. You are just like trump and everyone else who disagrees with me. Ha. Rumpelstiltskin. Haha.
Farmer: she could be beating her husband.
Conclusions
Farmer is a lunatic, but quite likely not a misogynist.
Sidney is obsessed with winning on the internet and has obsessive bias issue.
I never said @farmerinthecity hates all women
Youâre just making stuff up now
His hatred of Coppinger is certainly considerably amplified by her being a woman - he hates opinionated women, especially opinionated women who have a keen moral compass and tell the truth
You didnât answer the question I posed to you earlier, the same one I posed to @farmerinthecity
What is the requisite time period to elapse before somebody can call racist comments racist?
Seeing as @farmerinthecity has imposed an arbitrary time period in which racist comments must not be called racist
You canât possibly know that and therefore you can dismiss everything he says.
Says the chairman of the TFK misogyny crew
You couldnât make it up
Here you go sid. Read it again. He doesnât like her because sheâs a women, apparently. Oh and obviouslyâŚsomething something⌠Hilary Clinton
Itâs not so long ago you were throwing out abusive comments at females only on here.
Youâve just backed up what I said
The post you quote there is entirely on the money
Now answer the question I asked you instead of defending the racist defender
Youâre making some eejit of yourself here
You didnât answer the question I posed to you earlier, the same one I posed to @farmerinthecity
What is the requisite time period to elapse before somebody can call racist comments racist?
Seeing as @farmerinthecity has imposed an arbitrary time period in which racist comments must not be called racist
You can call a racist out straight away sid. Thatâs fine and commendable. Especially for someone with a racist past like yourself. It shows personal development.
You just canât take a comment someone made and say they made it because they love Trump. Or hate women. Or agree with fascism.
Hereâs an example of your reasoning.
Fact 1
Sidney has expressed racist and misogynist sentiment in the past on tfk but says he now regrets it.
Fact 2
Similarly, Lorraine Clifford-Lee has expressed racist and woman hating views in the past but says she regrets it now.
Bizarre sidneyesque conclusion.
It obviously makes sense that Sidney is just like the rest of FF.
State of play after LCL Twitter revelations. Drops from odds on to 3-1. Labourâs Smith in to 5s. Still valueâŚ
@Rocko any insight into the campaign the greens are running for their lad? Confidence? Numbers? Etc
Wait, youâre trying to tell me that I canât voice entirely reasonable opinions?
Youâre trying to cancel my free speech?
I didnât even say that @farmerinthecity had an opinion on Hillary Clinton - that was a general comment about the obsessive hatred of certain men on this forum for Hillary Clinton, in which their misogynism undoubtedly played a heavy part
You have a terrible tendency to leap and jump off a cliff
@farmerinthecityâs opinion on Ruth Coppinger is undoubtedly coloured by who and what she is
Youâve said there that itâs entirely reasonable to call out racist comments straight away
Thatâs exactly what Coppinger did
So, work it out - what was @farmerinthecity complaining about?
i) Was he complaining about the content of Coppingerâs comments and the timing of them - you yourself admit her comments were on the money and perfectly timed
If heâs complaining about the content of the comments, heâs defending a racist - which would mean that you yourself are defending the defence of a racist
ii) Or was he complaining about who was making the comments and what she is - a strong, principled opinionated woman
Because anybody with a functioning brain can see that yes, that strongly annoyed him - who was making the comments and what she is
Personally I think it was a combination of both - he didnât like the calling out of racism and he particularly objected to a strong, principled socialist woman doing the calling out
Iâm amazed that anybody would come to a different conclusion
I think it says a lot about @farmerinthecity and it says a lot about you that you decided to jump into a right-wing rabbit hole in defence of him
Mick Muldoon and Mick the Greek thought they were pulling a fast one on the Germans. Theyâll know not to try that sh!t again.
But Nig the Nigerian is to be trusted
Wait, youâre trying to tell me that I canât voice entirely reasonable opinions?
Youâre trying to cancel my free speech?
I didnât even say that @farmerinthecity had an opinion on Hillary Clinton - that was a general comment about the obsessive hatred of certain men on this forum for Hillary Clinton, in which their misogynism undoubtedly played a heavy part
You have a terrible tendency to leap and jump off a cliff
@farmerinthecityâs opinion on Ruth Coppinger is undoubtedly coloured by who and what she is
Youâve said there that itâs entirely reasonable to call out racist comments straight away
Thatâs exactly what Coppinger did
So, work it out - what was @farmerinthecity complaining about?
i) Was he complaining about the content of Coppingerâs comments and the timing of them - you yourself admit her comments were on the money and perfectly timed
If heâs complaining about the content of the comments, heâs defending a racist - which would mean that you yourself are defending the defence of a racist
ii) Or was he complaining about who was making the comments and what she is - a strong, principled opinionated woman
Because anybody with a functioning brain can see that yes, that strongly annoyed him - who was making the comments and what she is
Personally I think it was a combination of both - he didnât like the calling out of racism and he particularly objected to a strong, principled socialist woman doing the calling out
Iâm amazed that anybody would come to a different conclusion
I think it says a lot about @farmerinthecity and it says a lot about you that you decided to jump into a right-wing rabbit hole in defence of him
Try and be more concise sid, itâs rambling nonsense.
Yes I did tell you you canât decide why something was said. Not that you were not allowed to but that you are unable to say why. Thereâs an obvious difference but both are correct grammatically. Its not affecting your free speech in any way.
Your following bullshit (4 or 5 paragraphs) about what he said and then what I said and what it means âŚblah blah blah blahâŚis just that. Bullshit.
You took a comment a fella made and decided he was a misogynist on the back of it. I pulled you up on it. The supposed logical extrapolation youâd like to layer upon that is up to you. But it is nonsense. And predictably biased.
Racist pricks hero
Donât Be Duped By Gombeen Grealish
November 13, 2019
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Galway West TD Noel Grealish hit the headlines again yesterday with more dog whistle comments in the DĂĄil, this time bringing up money sent home as remittances by Nigerian immigrants. Grealish cited a figure from the World Bank of âŹ3.54 billion sent to Nigeria in the form of remittances over the last five years. This data is completely inaccurate, a fact acknowledged by the World Bank itself:
â These are analytical estimates based on logical assumptions and derived from a global estimation of bilateral remittance flows worldwide. They are not actual officially reported data.â
Data from the CSO, produced in line with best international practice, shows remittances of approximately âŹ17 million a year going to Nigeria between 2010-17. This is a fraction of the figure given by Grealish. Moreover the DĂĄil record shows that Grealish asked for and received the CSO figures from Government Chief Whip SeĂĄn Kyne last month. The TD has therefore deliberately and wildly mislead the public with these comments.
So why does Grealish want to lie about remittances being sent to Nigeria? Irish emigrants have a long history of working hard to save and send money home from the United States, England and elsewhere. Often this was money that kept their families afloat back home.
The reality is Grealish is once again trying to target migrants and stir up racism. This latest attempt is quite sinister. He wants white Irish people to be suspicious of their migrant friends and work colleagues, to drive a wedge between working people, to ramp up xenophobia against people who are doing nothing more than sending a small amount of money back to their families.
If Grealish were really concerned with saving money for the country, he could easily highlight the billions of euro being squeezed out of Irish workers every year to keep European banks afloat, or indeed the âŹ13 billion Apple tax owed to Ireland that the Irish government refuses to claim. Instead of challenging the vast inequality in our society he wants to target ethnic minorities and the pennies they might have managed to save through hard work.
Indeed, this goes to the heart of the matter. The truth is that Noel Grealish is nothing more than an establishment hack with a long track record of supporting the ĂŠlites in our society and ripping off ordinary people. He claimed âŹ87,294 in expenses between 2016 and 2019 despite failing to vote on 66 of the days where he signed in. He has repeatedly backed the Fine Gael-Fianna FĂĄil alliance over the years, most recently voting against the Anti-Evictions Bill, against a bill that would end a recruitment freeze on Mental Health workers, and against measures to give priority to the improvement of public transport. He also voted with the government in the votes of no confidence against Minster for Health Simon Harris and Minister for Housing Eoghan Murphy, allowing them to continue decimating our health service and enriching major developers and vulture funds at the expense of struggling people who need affordable housing.
Grealish would like for nothing more than to see people turn on African migrants, letting him and his friends in Fine Gael and Fianna FĂĄil off the hook. We absolutely cannot allow this to happen. We must stand up for vulnerable people who are being targeted, reject this vile racism, and fight for a society that looks after everybody.
Shit attempts at flippant bluster to try and mask your inability to answer basic questions donât suit you, mate
They just expose your crap posts as crap posts
You have a weird compulsion to be wrong about things, and your right-wing authoritarian nature has been sadly evident here
Says a lot about the state of the Labour party that somebody so willing to make a fool of themselves jumping down a right wing rabbit hole is a member
Anyone that replies to him on any topic gets the same.
He ran poor auld Labane off the forum
Youâd be nuts to get involved in that.
Itâs not so long ago you were throwing out abusive comments at females only on here
Itâs only a couple of weeks since he was asking other posters to put up milf pics cos he didnât have the stones to look for them himself.