Ireland politics (Part 2)

That is sad news - I admire RBB’s incredulousness and ability to cut through government bullshit

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mate, i think its assumed that everybody wants him to overcome this, you dont need to say it,

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Virtue signaller

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Not necessarily, you’d an 88 year old man who passed away a few days ago and a few tasteless remarks were made upon his passing so decency and respect is not necessarily found on here unconditionally.

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Go way you aul woman

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He’s the best left wing politician.

He strikes me as a decent sort,

What tasteless remarks were made?

RBB is an alright sort, I hope he gets through this.

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https://archive.ph/2025.04.10-053739/https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/04/10/dr-eddie-molloy-there-is-one-risk-to-irelands-future-progress-that-dwarfs-even-pandemics-terrorism-and-tariffs/

I just read this. It’s a fella arguing the civil service is shite. And fair enough if he wants to but he seems to have an awful lot wrong and his most recent reference point is 2014.

The grade structure of the Civil Service, with 15 layers piled on top of the executive officer rank, is reminiscent of the bureaucratic pyramid of the Indian railways in the 1920s.

There’s only five grades above EO.

Appointing a head of the Civil Service would help in this regard and contribute to other reforms.

There is a head of the Civil Service.

The 2006 OECD Review of the Irish public service, entitled Towards an Integrated Public Service, recommended that public service values be restated and a sustained programme undertaken to instil these values in the hearts and minds of public servants. It never happened.

The civil service code of standards was introduced during the reforms of post crash, it was updated recently.

Dr Eddie Molloy has provided independent consultant support to most government departments and numerous State bodies, as well as the private sector, for more than four decades
I’d say a lad who’s been a consultant for four decades might be part of the problem.

Consultant whose business is getting places to reform wants reform? Consider me shocked!!

This report - and the judge in charge of it - seems like a shit show. Eight years, 2k pages, no executive summary, not written in plain English and appears to have blinked in making any substantive findings.

The final report, which runs to over 2,000 pages long, does not have an Executive summary, something the Children and Equality Minister Norma Foley specifically requested from Judge Farrelly.

The minister told the media today that she was told by the commission judge that her request could not be granted.

“The fact that it took eight years, too long,” the minster stated today. “The fact there is no Executive Summary, I find that difficult,” said Foley.

The minister said she would have liked the report to use “language that everybody could understand, that everybody could read into. That would be my way of doing it, that would be my view”.

The minister also asked that the other 47 children, their families and other people including the whistleblowers be informed prior to the publication of the report today that the document was to be made public.

The minister told reporters today that the commission judge informed her that her request could not not be fulfilled.

Interview with the social worker who uncovered this case on the news at one now. Heroic guy. Describes the state response as trying to crush him. The situation seems utterly insane.

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Unusual that a whistleblower is targeted by the establishment.

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Why are judges appointed to run these reviews? They don’t exactly have a great track record of delivering timely, cost effective reports.

Someone has to ensure the solicitors make out like bandits

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Agreed -EY or PWC should be handed the reigns

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Arthur Cox could handle it or Webster, Webster & Cohen

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A couple of points. The commission was headed by a senior counsel not a judge. It could find no evidence of sexual, mental or physical abuse. What is it supposed to do? Invent evidence? Grace’s mental health deteriorated rapidly and permanently when she was taken out of the foster home and put into residential care. The commission found that the grounds for taking her out of the foster home on which the whistleblower relied were tenuous. Maybe the foster home wasn’t perfect but maybe it was the best place for Grace.
Whistleblowers aren’t always right.
8 years is too long to produce a report.
The report should have had an executive summary.

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The foster home with multiple allegations of sexual abuse against it? And which was found to have (at minimum) neglected Grace?

There were allegations based on what the commission believed were misheard/misunderstood conversations.
The long and the short of it was the girl went to the bad when she was taken out of the home. I’d imagine fostering a child with a mental disability isn’t easy (the report mentions the foster mother dealing with the child’s incontinence for example).