Israel

[Sidney]

@Fitzy

During a second visit of a high-level IAEA team[/url] in February, Iran refused access to the site. According to Western intelligence reports, the Parchin complex may have been used to conduct high-explosives tests that the IAEA says are “strong indicators” of possible weapons development. Iran [url=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/irans-top-leader-vows-to-pursue-nuclear-progress-not-bombs/2012/02/22/gIQA0W2TTR_story.html”]denies all charges of trying to fabricate a nuclear weapon and says there are no nuclear-related activities at Parchin.

Not evidence. We had “the smoking gun” in 2003. I think it turned out to be a few lorries with gravel in them or something.

What we do have evidence of is a rogue state in the region with the most advanced nuclear weapons capability who have a proven record of invading other states and are currently openly threatening to go to war with another one.

[Julio_Geordio]

@Fitzy

During a second visit of a high-level IAEA team[/url] in February, Iran refused access to the site. According to Western intelligence reports, the Parchin complex may have been used to conduct high-explosives tests that the IAEA says are “strong indicators” of possible weapons development. Iran [url=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/irans-top-leader-vows-to-pursue-nuclear-progress-not-bombs/2012/02/22/gIQA0W2TTR_story.html”]denies all charges of trying to fabricate a nuclear weapon and says there are no nuclear-related activities at Parchin.

So they’ve have no idea whats going on in there, but IF they are conducting high explosive tests then there may be weapons development. :lol:

The Iranians should demand access to US & Israeli military bases in return.

[Fitzy]

@Julio Geordio

So they’ve have no idea whats going on in there, but IF they are conducting high explosive tests then there may be weapons development. :lol:

The Iranians should demand access to US & Israeli military bases in return.

FFS.

Look, I’m far from a supporter of Israel or America, but from what I’ve read and heard from a number of experts, its pretty clear that Iran are using their civilian nuclear program for military means. Iran isn’t exactly a kum bah ya happy clappy nation and its led by a complete fucking nutter who’s even a holocaust denier.

Yes Israel haven’t signed the NNPT, and its pretty hypocritical in the extreme for the US and Iran to be taking these positions, but a nuclear armed Iran is no good for anyone.

[Watch_The_Break]

@Fitzy

FFS.

Look, I’m far from a supporter of Israel or America, but from what I’ve read and heard from a number of experts, its pretty clear that Iran are using their civilian nuclear program for military means. Iran isn’t exactly a kum bah ya happy clappy nation and its led by a complete fucking nutter who’s even a holocaust denier.

Yes Israel haven’t signed the NNPT, and its pretty hypocritical in the extreme for the US and Iran to be taking these positions, but a nuclear armed Iran is no good for anyone.

It’s good for Iran. The reality is that nuclear weapons are an effective deterrent, and with Israel and the US threatening to attack you every five minutes it must seem like an attractive proposition. Israel was claiming Iran was on the verge of having a nuclear weapon in the early 90s and were urging the Americans to attack it. Whether they are actually doing it or not (and I’d say they are at least trying), they’re not going to have any security from Israeli and US aggression. So fuck it, they might as well.

[Sidney]

Long but worth reading:

http://www.alternet…r_war_with_iran

Glenn Greenwald Tears Apart the Propaganda Driving the Insane Push for War With Iran

There are similarities in the run up to the Iraq war, but there is also a key difference – this time, the driving force for the push for war with Iran isn’t Washington.