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Joe Canning: Calling out the Tipperary players in public wasn’t smartest move by Liam Cahill

Side look stuck in a rut but must improve greatly on a dismal display in Limerick if they are to overcome Waterford and ignite their season

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Limerick’s Aaron Gillane in action against Tipperary. I couldn’t believe that Tipp chose to play with an extra defender. It played right into Limerick’s hands. Photograph: James Crombie/Inpho

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Joe Canning

Fri May 3 2024 - 06:00

Since Limerick started winning All-Irelands under John Kiely nobody has faced them more often than Liam Cahill. Last Sunday’s game in the Gaelic Grounds was their 10th meeting – six games when Cahill was manager of Waterford and now four as Tipperary manager, championship and league.

With all that previous experience in the bank I couldn’t believe that Tipp played with an extra defender. Teams do it because they think it will help them stay in the game when in fact it has the opposite effect. If you give Limerick extra time and space to play out from the back they will just pick you off.

Being able to work the ball under pressure is probably Limerick’s greatest strength so when you allow players like Barry Nash and Declan Hannon the freedom to look up they’ll find a forward every time. The sweeper is taken out of the equation straight away.

I’ve been saying this for years. The only way for teams to give themselves a chance against Limerick is to push up, man-on-man, like Clare have been doing for the last couple of seasons. That takes a bit of courage, and it means that your players in the top half of the field must work extremely hard.

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It also involves an element of risk. You must believe that you have defenders good enough to cope with Limerick’s forwards in one-on-one situations. What you’re trying to do, by pushing up, is make sure that the ball going in is far from perfect.

Tipp failed from every angle. By playing a sweeper they actually gave their defenders less protection. And at the other end of the field, by having one less forward, they weren’t able to create nearly enough scoring chances. Eighteen points against Limerick will hardly keep you going until half-time.

On too many occasions the ball that was sent into the Tipp forward line came straight back out again. Jake Morris was blocked down three times, twice by Kyle Hayes and once by Dan Morrissey. It’s rare enough for a high class intercounty player to be blocked down in the modern game, but three times in the first half alone was something I can’t ever remember seeing.

From Morris, it just looked casual. Limerick don’t give you a second to think. Everything must be done with urgency. All over the field that urgency was missing. To me, Tipp didn’t look like a team that believed they could win the game.

Twelve months ago, in Thurles, they held Limerick to a draw and probably deserved to win that game on the balance of play. Before that, in their two away games, they had beaten Clare and drawn with Cork. At that stage they looked like a team going places.

Liam Cahill: after the defeat to Limerick he came out an wondered what was wrong with the players. Questioning them in public wasn’t the smartest approach, in my view. Photograph: James Crombie/Inpho

Now, they look like a team that’s stuck. Ever since they collapsed against Waterford in the final group game last year they’ve been struggling. They were terrible against Galway in the All-Ireland quarter-final, they were completely outplayed by Clare in the league semi-final this year, and they took that form to the Gaelic Grounds last Sunday.

Everything that I heard in the build-up was that Tipp had been flying in training, but we’ve seen this before with teams trained by Cahill. Is the training so hard that it takes away the freshness you need for a championship match? Last Sunday they looked completely flat to me.

After the game Liam Cahill came out and wondered what was wrong with the players. I found that a bit strange. Players obviously take direction and leadership from management and when you hear the boss saying he doesn’t know what’s wrong with his team then where are they going?

If I was one of those players I wouldn’t take kindly to that. As a manager, or as a player, the things that need to be said should be said behind closed doors. To keep Tipp’s season alive, Cahill is going to need those players to go to the wall for him in Walsh Park tomorrow. Questioning them in public wasn’t the smartest approach, in my view.

The manager must take responsibility for the way the team is set up and the players must take responsibility for their performances. I was convinced they would give Limerick a rattle, but the fire I expected to see disappeared after a few minutes. If they bring that kind of attitude to Walsh Park, Tipperary’s season will effectively be over.

Kilkenny’s Tom Phelan tackles Galway’s Daithí Burke during the Leinster SHC clash at Pearse Stadium. Photograph: Laszlo Geczo/Inpho

For different reasons, it was a strange game in Pearse Stadium too. Galway did well to dig out a draw with two points in stoppage time, but they can’t be happy with the performance. Kilkenny were missing three of their best players – Eoin Murphy, Eoin Cody and Adrian Mullen – and it was a perfect opportunity for Galway to put down a marker.

Derek Lyng might have been unhappy that Kilkenny didn’t close out the game but he would still have been the happier manager at the final whistle. Cody and Mullen are easily worth five or six points to Kilkenny every day.

I was very disappointed with Galway. They almost looked a little heavy legged and at times they lacked composure on the ball, which surprised me. Very late in the game Padraic Mannion and Sean Linnane worked a short puck-out. But instead of using the overlap they had created and working the ball up the field, Mannion drove it wide from his own half. If they want to go far in the championship their composure and game management when chasing a game will need to be better.

Late in the game, when Johnny Glynn was on the edge of the square, they were going route one and landing it on top of him. Glynn is incredibly strong in the air but Galway need to be smarter. Everyone almost senses when Johnny goes to the edge of the square that Galway will go direct, but why not mix it up?

If teams drop back to crowd him out there should be more space around the middle. When the other team knows that Galway are just going direct, those kind of balls are easier to defend. Near the end when Galway were chasing the game a number of balls broke off Gylnn and Whelan but Kilkenny were able to work it out because they funnelled bodies back.

Galway will definitely need to improve and they face a serious test in Wexford Park tomorrow. When Wexford’s backs were to the wall last year they beat Kilkenny in the last round of matches to stay in the Liam MacCarthy Cup. After their loss to Antrim, Wexford have backed themselves into a corner again. I think they must beat Galway to keep their chances of qualifying from Leinster alive. If Galway lose, their place in the Leinster final is suddenly in jeopardy.

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Joe is probably hurting bad that his sponsored motivational team talk to cork didn’t work.

Sad to see that Limerick have driven you so addled you’re even turning on the best player of all time and one of your own.

Why do you think he called carks manliness into question in a national newspaper three days before a huge championship match?

He didn’t.

IIRC he said they are fragile going down the home stretch of games - their mentality needs to change.

And what happened - they went 7 points up, let Clare back in, got reduced to 14 for stupidness and then engaged in wrestling matches all over the park eating up their own clock.

Joe was proven 100%.

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Exactly. None of that gendered language @flattythehurdler inserted. But sure it’s all culture wars with him.

There are none so blind as a Macnas head with an agenda

“soft” was the word. Not mentally fragile.

Throughout my Galway career we always regarded Cork as fragile. Nice hurlers and all that, but not a team to be afraid of in a close game, going down the stretch.

Cork are soft fragile cunts

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Joe Canning: Galway look a bit lost - can they find themselves again before it’s too late?

Despite alarming performance against Wexford, Galway still have time to turn things around, but for Cork time is running out fast

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Wexford’s Liam Ryan and Galway’s Conor Cooney shake hands after their SHC round 3 match at Wexford Park on May 4th. Photograph: Leah Scholes/Inpho

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Joe Canning

Fri May 10 2024 - 06:00

The way the hurling championship is structured, teams can get themselves into a hole with very little time to get out of it. Before last weekend’s games Wexford and Tipperary were in that position, trying to get their heads around an unacceptable performance the previous week and somehow find a way to stay alive in the championship. Galway are there now.

I didn’t see that performance coming against Wexford. When you look back there were warning signs in the Kilkenny game a week before, but I think everyone assumed they would fix whatever issues were highlighted in that game and get better. That wasn’t the case.

From a Galway point of view, the performance against Wexford was alarming. I’ve said this before, but I still don’t know how Galway are trying to play. I don’t see a pattern. I can’t read how they’re going to set up from one game to the next.

When teams play against Limerick everybody knows what they’re up against. They might not be able to do much about it, but with Limerick everyone can see that there is a system and a structure in place. With Galway, there is none of that.

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I have to be honest and say I don’t see any togetherness. I don’t see any real direction. It’s disjointed. Too much of what they’re doing is individualistic. At the moment I’m finding it hard to see a team that can challenge for the All-Ireland. It’s just very frustrating from a Galway point of view.

If you look back over the last couple of years, Galway have lost the games they really needed to win: Leinster finals, All-Ireland semi-finals. When you look at the All-Ireland quarter-finals they won, it was as much to do with Tipperary and Cork not performing as anything Galway did.

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I think when other teams look at Galway now their attitude is: if we outwork them we’ll beat them. It must be very hard for Henry Shefflin to swallow that because hard work was the hallmark of his performances when he was playing. He was a brilliant hurler who worked tirelessly for the team.

Wexford’s Jack O’Connor and Cian Byrne tackle Daithí Burke of Galway at Wexford Park on May 4th. Photograph: Leah Scholes/Inpho

Late in the game last Saturday there was one situation where a Galway player was running towards his own goal, with his back to the ball, and a Wexford player ran out past him to gather possession and put it over the bar. Galway had an extra man at the time and you’re thinking the only player who really wanted the ball in that situation was the Wexford forward, who was outnumbered at that end of the field. From a Galway point of view, where was the communication? Where was the desire?

I’m on the outside looking in and I remember when I was playing I hated people making judgments about what was going on inside the four walls of our dressing room, or on the training ground, when all they could see were the matches. I also understand, though, that you can’t escape the judgments people make about you on match day. Everything you do in training must lead to a performance.

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At the moment, Galway look confused. Eamon O’Shea was a great appointment and when he was involved with Tipperary over the years you associated their forward lines with great use of the ball and great use of space. The Kilkenny teams that Shefflin played on under Brian Cody had a different approach and were far more direct.

Are Galway trying to marry those two approaches? Is that possible? O’Shea has only been involved since the start of the year and – with the weather, and everything else – he has only had a couple of months to really work stuff out on the training ground. It probably is going to take longer than that to get his ideas across to the players and for all that to bed down.

But in the meantime Galway look lost. I wonder if they know their best 15. Gearóid McInerney didn’t get any look in during the league, or in the Kilkenny game, but he started last Saturday. David Burke started against Kilkenny and didn’t play too badly; last Saturday, when they were in trouble, he didn’t get a minute off the bench.

Galway’s Cianan Fahy and Fintan Burke block a shot from Rory O’Connor of Wexford. Photograph: Leah Scholes/Inpho

Late in the game, when Galway were trying to chase down Wexford’s lead, Conor Cooney ended up in the backs. I never saw him play there before. Johnny Glynn came on at the edge of the square at a time in the game when Galway couldn’t win a puck-out. Why didn’t they put him at wing forward, where he has played a lot of hurling, just to try to win some primary possession?

They still have time to turn the season around. If they beat Antrim and Dublin there’s every chance they will still end up in a Leinster final, depending on other results. But stumbling into a Leinster final against Kilkenny won’t be much good unless they sort out the issues that killed them in Wexford Park.

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Time is running out for Cork. If they lose against Limerick on Saturday night their season is over. Can they do it? I can’t see it. They were better against Clare than they had been against Waterford but when the game was there to be won they still couldn’t get over the line.

Cork will need to run at Limerick and, to have any chance, they will need to score goals – which is easier said than done. Cork have been shipping big scores, not just this season, but last year as well. Against Limerick, though, they can’t afford to sit off. They will have to take a risk on winning a high-scoring game.

If they bring players back, they’re not going to have enough of a threat at the other end and Limerick will just pick them off. The problem for Cork is that I don’t think they have players in their full-back line who can survive against Limerick without extra protection.

It’s very early in the year for a do-or-die game but that’s where Cork find themselves now. They’ll need to come with something that we haven’t seen yet.

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The usual forelock tug from Joe.
Apart from that the big house gave him a week off.

He’s the best analyst of the game around today.

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He has the limerick laptop group behind him

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You couldn’t fault his analysis on Galway.

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It’s not exactly shattering insight.
He’s mostly concerned with worshipping his new overlords.

Joe always writes and speaks well.

A very important group to have on your side.

Galway’s greatest player and the best hurler of all time and Flatty cutting the back off him. Disgraceful behaviour and a microcosm of Galway hurling.