Herr Klopp

Mourinho had a trophyless campaign last year and they’re way off the pace this year. He’s in big bother.

Sarri is only in the job 4 months, he has not had the chance to win a trophy yet.

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He was beaten in the Chairty Shield by Man City.

Not a trophy.

There’s no trophies won in England in December. What are you advocating, sacking Klopp now and getting someone like Sparky Hughes in?

They’ve improved significantly season on season. No manager gets sacked for improving a team

I’m not. @mikehunt is.

Appointing Hughes would be silly as he’s not won anything as a manager. Liverpool should go for a serial winner.

Managers get sacked for failing to win trophies at Liverpool.

No they get sacked for going backwards. Liverpool are improving every year. Nobody gets sacked while improving each year

Liverpool are a selling club.

Just when they are making progress they sell their best players

Benitez had Xabi Alonso and Mascherano sold out from under him
Rodgers had Sterling and Suarez sold
Klopp had Coutinho sold.

All when progress looked inevitable.

*they sold Torres at some stage too and bought Andy Carroll.

I suppose you’d say Eusebio DI Francesco has failed to improve Roma?

Fortunately you don’t get to define what a trophy is. Sarri choked in the Italian league last year. His first chance to win a trophy with Chelsea and he bottled it too. You seem to be holding managers to different standards.

I always find it funny how a fan of them massive bottlers who have won three Serie A’s ever is so obsessed with winning

Incorrect. Managers at big clubs are judged on their trophies, certainly when they are commanding the type of salary Klopp is and are one of the highest spending clubs in the world.

Claude Puel was sacked for improving Southampton.

They are judged on whether they improve the team. Managers rarely get sacked when they are improving the team even at the best clubs

That went well for them :laughing:

Sean Dyche? Trophy winner and you have him getting sacked any day now at Burnley.

They’re in the bottom three of the table. It’s 3 years since he won a trophy. You can’t live off goodwill forever.

So it’s gone from rarely to never? Happens regularly.

If Liverpool fail to win a trophy this season, get knocked out of the CL earlier than last year and finish outside the top 3 then should Klopp be sacked?

When at the big clubs?

It depends on the circumstances. The trophy angle is fairly irrelevant. The only trophies that boards of the big clubs care about these days are the PL and the CL. If they finish outside the top 4 and get knocked out in the CL group stages then it would have to be looked at yes

Milan have sacked countless managers in recent seasons after signs of improvement. Capello delivered two Lá Ligas to Madrid on separate occasions and was sacked in the aftermath. Juup Heynecks was sacked after delivering a CL to Madrid. Louis Van Gaal another one at Man Utd.