You sure Sid? Thought he lived the early part of his life in around Dorset St and the parents then moved out towards Coolock when he was a young fella.
There was some story in his book about them living in a place or tennement that used be a whorehouse.
Yeah saw that in the book.
a blast from the pastâŚhttp://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-seven-out-of-eight-pdm-riders-doped-at-1988-tour-de-france]http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-seven-out-of-eight-pdm-riders-doped-at-1988-tour-de-france
A Dutch newspaper has alleged that seven of the eight riders on the PDM team at the 1988 Tour de France were using banned substances. Volksrant has published extracts from the notebook used by soigneur Bertus Fok during the race, in which he details the substances administered to the riders.
According to Volksrant, Fok confirmed the authenticity of the ring-bound, team-branded notebook during an interview at his home recently. Fok, who began his career as a soigneur with Peter Postâs TI-Raleigh team, joined PDM in 1986.
Volksrant alleges that Fok was âdirectly responsible for the medical policy â the doctors did not make their appearance until some years later in cycling.â
Fokâs notebook, photographs of which are published on the Volksrant website, provides details of the substances he administered to his riders during the Tour. The substances and practices used by PDM riders on the race allegedly include testosterone, corticosteroids and blood transfusions. It remains unclear whether EPO was in use in the peloton as early as 1988, but Fok said that he did not administer it at PDM.
âI never occupied myself with EPO. That was too much for me,â Fok said.
PDMâs best finisher in the 1988 Tour was Steven Rooks, who came second overall behind Pedro Delgado, won on lâAlpe dâHuez and claimed the king of the mountains title. Rooks confessed to doping throughout his career in 1999.
Gert-Jan Theunisse - who had finished second behind Rooks at lâAlpe dâHuez - tested positive for testosterone during the 1988 Tour and was handed a ten-minute penalty, which relegated him from 4th to 11th place overall. In 1999, Theunisse confessed to using corticosteroids during his career but denied that he had used testosterone during the 1988 Tour.
Fok explained that Theunisse held a medical certificate to use corticosteroids. âNot everything could be detected then,â Fok said.
The PDM team, which operated between 1986 and 1992, was also embroiled in controversy during the 1991 Tour, when the entire team abandoned the race during the opening week, citing illness. A bacterial infection was initially blamed for the so-called âIntralipid Affairâ and, later, the use of the fat emulsion intralipid, although speculation concerning the teamâs use of doping products has always been rife. Speaking of the affair in 1997, then manager Manfred Krikke said, âThe one rule imposed from the PDM directors was that there was to be âno drug affairsâ rather than âno drug taking.ââ
Kelly cycled for PDM in 1989
Whatever about doping, the PDM jersey was deadly in fairness
What years did LeMond cycle for PDM? He was injured in 88 after the shooting, but did he cycle for them before or after that?
i dont think he ever really cycled with them, that was during the gunshot years⌠according to wikiâŚ
Greg Lemond was with PDM in 1988. He never cycled in Le Tour with them.
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and 1991
He did a couple of races early in 1988 but he struggled because he came back too soon from the shooting and he pulled out.
Is it generally accepted that that was down to them taking a bad batch of EPO?
Shssssh ffs.
Donât know. but they all obviously got the same shit anyway.
:lol:
News from the front.
Franck Schleck banned for a year yesterday. Michael Rasmussen admitted doping throughout his 12 year career. And Lance did an interview in which he said he was the fall guy. Also said that Fat Pat is in CYA mode at the moment. Couldnât be arsed to post it.
Surely itâs a no brainer for Lance to bring everyone down with him now. Sure if he exposes that basically every other top cyclist was on drugs too it will redeem him in a lot of casual fans eyes. Heâs obviously still a complete bullying cunt and his sueing and constant public lying makes him worse than the rest but it will win him back some credibility.
This may be of interest to cycling freaksâŚ
Hi all,
David Walsh and Paul Kimmage will be interviewed live in the Lime Tree Theatre (Mary I) by Alan English of the Limerick Leader on Monday, February 25th next, speaking about their battle over the past 10 years with Lance Armstrong. We are opening the box office especially on Monday at 10am (we normally donât open Mondays) to sell tickets â it will go on sale online at the same time. This event sold out in two days when it was put on sale in Dublin, so I wanted to give you all a heads-up. If you are interested in attending, youâll need to book more or less as soon as it goes on sale.
The event is in aid of two charities: Limerick Cycle 4 Sick Children and the Limerick Simon Community.
061-774772
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This may be of interest to cycling freaksâŚ
Hi all,
David Walsh and Paul Kimmage will be interviewed live in the Lime Tree Theatre (Mary I) by Alan English of the Limerick Leader on Monday, February 25th next, speaking about their battle over the past 10 years with Lance Armstrong. We are opening the box office especially on Monday at 10am (we normally donât open Mondays) to sell tickets â it will go on sale online at the same time. This event sold out in two days when it was put on sale in Dublin, so I wanted to give you all a heads-up. If you are interested in attending, youâll need to book more or less as soon as it goes on sale.
The event is in aid of two charities: Limerick Cycle 4 Sick Children and the Limerick Simon Community.
061-774772
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So the view from the high moral ground has a price.
No surprise to see the Roche fan club turning on Walsh again.
I believe Walsh and kimmage are giving up their time for free to do these gigs and as pointed out proceeds to charity.
On that basis the high moral ground is maintained.
Has anyone heard from Kelly or Roche lately btw?
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Are you simple?