Laochra Gael - What a time to be alive


#1081

Carlow too yeah.


#1082

I played on Barney in his twilight years and there was no way he was going to get a dunt. He’d more or less hang out on the sideline and have a chat and would only advance to take a free.


#1083

I think Duff did play in 1984, watched some footage on youtube there


#1084

Duff played in the '84 final alright.

His ban was reduced to, I think, nine months (possibly six, but I think it was nine) on appeal.


#1085

Thanks for this. Very informative.


#1086

That’s how I remember him too. In fairness he was plenty brave before Harnan busted him but he lost his bottle after. It was a ferocious hit. He broke his collar bone and dislocated his shoulder with the one hit. Rock was out for nearly a year after it


#1087

Wasn’t he known to be an aggressive drunk?
cc @Watchyourtoes??


#1088

It was the culminating act in a vile final played in bad weather and worse spirit. Even so kicking somebody in the head, even if only a flick will never play well on a showpiece occasion.


#1089

He was a disaster but he never glassed anyone or bate the living shit out of his Mrs like other former players!


#1090

You sure about that?


#1091

About Leahy? 100%


#1092

Loose lips sink ships, eh.


#1093

And none as loose as a Tipps man, loose lips and tight pockets eh mate!


#1094

Okay, you’re rattled pal.


#1095

No you are just chasing your tail yet again.


#1096

Chasing tail you say, how apt.


#1097

If Sidney and yourself say he did I’ll bow to your superior knowledge.!


#1098

Barney Rock was pretty much done as a real force for Dublin after 1986. But apart from having perhaps the best name of any player in Dublin history, I don’t think he was ever that much of a real folk hero though, and he certianly never had much of a name as a “brave” player. Mick Holden famously pulled him up off the ground in the 1984 final after he got a clatter from a Kerry player.

Duff and Joe McNally were much bigger folk heroes with the Dublin support. The first big Dublin game I attended was the 1987 League final against Kerry and Duff got a goal in the first minute. So I loved him after that.

When Cullen came in he pretty much sidelined Rock, Duff and McNally, though all three made fleeting appearances against Meath in 1991 - Rock and Duff were both brought back into the team for the second game, and played well - but they didn’t feature much afterwards and didn’t feature at all in the fourth game. McNally got a point as a sub in extra-time in game 3 but he didn’t feature in game 4 either.

I attended Duff’s final game for Dublin, which was a league game at home to Tyrone in November 1991. Tyrone won 4-11 to 0-11. Duff was on the frees and had an absolute nightmare, at least once he barely raised the ball off the ground. I think he was taken off and quit after that game.

There was definitely some disquiet among a lot of Dublin supporters after the loss to Donegal in the '92 final that he was no longer on the panel.


#1099

No, that McDonald fella would be about twenty years the wrong age. He would be late 30s now, former manager of Oliver Callen.


#1100

Rock had massive grudging respect in Cork after 83
Duff was an animal