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[flattythehurdler]

@LionelRitchie

It’s not a fact at all. If as a parent you are telling your kids a sportsman is their role model, you’re failing the child. Kid doesn’t learn how to carry themselves off the field by a sportsman. Or shouldn’t do anyway.

Of course you shouldn’t as a parent, but look at all the kids swarming around them after games. They have a very high profile. They are accused of all sorts if they don’t sign things, stand for selfies, visit schools etc etc. Of course they are role models. Not sure what this has to do with parents

[LionelRitchie]

That’s on the pitch. Using them as a role.model for being out in a pub after a match is where I think it’s wrong

[flattythehurdler]

@Big_Dan_Campbell

To me there is no huge difference to it than say pulling on a ball in the air where an opponent goes to catch it. If you are a second late and 6 inches away from the ball you would count yourself luck to remain on the field. There is a duty of care on the tackler and it is a reckless stroke when late and above the ball.

Does anyone genuinely think that gillane would pull hard on a ball and miss it by half a foot?
Dear me.

[flattythehurdler]

I didn’t say it was right. I said it was a fact.

[LionelRitchie]

You deem it, so it is?

Pat Ryan is a role model so extra punishment beyond that of mere mortals should be exercised?

[flattythehurdler]

Sigh

[BeTimberin]

There is a lot of sense in that actually but kids often lack role models day to day. A sad reality of the world we live in.

Id suggest the likes of a Declan Hannon, Tony Kelly, Noel McGrath would be an excellent role model / substitution in that instance?

[Raylan]

@Aristotle

he did pull out at the end

He kinda did, he definitely knew he wasn’t getting there but couldn’t stop himself having a bit of a flake at it anyway. It was the definition of sailing close to the wind. Yellow was correct imo, but it could easily enough have gone against him.

[Biff_Egan]

Buff is more of a role model to kids than most intercounty hurkers.

[Esso_Oil]

@flattythehurdler

Does anyone genuinely think that gillane would pull hard on a ball and miss it by half a foot?
Dear me.

Did you not see him totally mishitting a ball off his hurley earlier in the game that if an u14 did it at home in the club you’d call him a useless little fucker.

[Watchyourtoes]

@flattythehurdler

@Locke

Yet you don’t refer to Barrett diving to get Richie Hogan sent off in 2019. The Tipp cunt is still rolling

just how much damage a headbutt can do. I’ve seen life changing damage from them.

Paper mache heads can be lethal in fairness.

[Watchyourtoes]

You need to allow the opposition player to take clean possesion before pulling on the ball in the wrong direction according to the lads, just stand there and wait for him.

[flattythehurdler]

What you suggest is neither here nor there. How many kids have Kim Kardashian as a role model?
Millions.
This nuance seems beyond some people.

[flattythehurdler]

He didn’t pull on the ball.

[Watchyourtoes]

I don’t take the opinion of a man who wears leather trousers.

[flattythehurdler]

I’ll take your word for that

[BeTimberin]

But they dont though. They just see her as famous and want that. A lot of kids have savage challenges at home - having an example tomodel themselves on is everything!

[flattythehurdler]

Millions want to be like her. Did you not see the survey where more kids wanted to go on big brother than go to Oxford or Cambridge.
It’s not just kids either. Look at all the deformed lips around the place.
Of course these people are role models
Anyhow.

[BeTimberin]

Whatever about Buff, growing up with people like Lohan, Jamesie,etc. to look up to was huge for Clare kids.

Hannon for me is a brilliant role model for kids. He comes across.very well on and off the field.

[Malarkey]

@flattythehurdler

He did indeed, but if all the arguable decisions and red cards, I looked at the Richie Hogan one a few times, and it looked like a red card to me. He is such a generational talent, I just can’t see him doing it by accident. I still don’t really understand the fuss.
I looked at it a few times because Kilkenny hurling folk, out of all of us, seem reasonable and knowledgeable, and I thought I must be mistaken, but I genuinely can’t see the issue really.

To be fair and exact, there was never too much of an issue per se about RH being sent off. He put himself in the way of that possibility, which was unwise for any player and culpably silly for so experienced a player. Enough said.

For Kilkenny supporters and fair minded people, there were two main issues:

1 Cathal Barrett should have been sent off not long beforehand for pulling across RH’s head/neck area. There was some mealy mouthed ráiméis on here in late 2019 about the difference between a ‘flick’ and a ‘pull’. Suffice it to say that I definitively proved CB pulled rather than flicked – and therefore should have been sent off.

2 On the day, the linesman effectively told referee James Owens not to send off RH. The referee then ‘went upstairs’ and received instruction via his earpiece. Said instruction, which is not allowed under the current rulebook, clearly involved JO being told to red card RH. This scenario, because not in rulebook, constitutes worst practice. Who gave JO this feedback? From where is he or from where are they? Etc. Transparency is meant to be at the heart of best practice in officiating and refereeing.

One of the Kilkenny forwards on the day said to me later that he approached JO immediately after the incident and said: “You do realize, James, you just made a fuck of an All Ireland Final?” JO replied: “You would want to hear what they were telling me in my earpiece…”