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[quote=“therock67”]What’s strange - that he has retired or that he has retired and got a job?

Who is Laurie Fisher? New to the setup or there all along?

That’s some amount of continuity to have though with all those players involved. Foley will be a busy man - wonder if he has 3 salaries![/quote]

you must have missed fisher appointment on honeymoon, was head coach of Brumbies last year. Great coup for Muunster and a fair indication of there standing i think that he would take a forward coach job after being a head coach.

Lawler will still play away for Shanning I spose but he is milllion miles away from the Munster side and rightly so IMHO. Good player but not good enough. He should have fooked off to England years ago and he would have made a great living and would probably have gotten a good run with a premiership team. His versatility was his undoing, jack of all trades etc…would have tracked his career closely from being same age etc and at U21 level it looked like he could write his own ticket.

unbelievable continuity there alright in the Munster management. makes a lot of sense keep people you can trust close to you

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agree with dan mossy was/is a smashing ail player…looks a class above for shannon but just not good enough for the next level…hasn’t enough gas for full back or wing and his hands aren’t quick enough for outhalf or inside centre but a great servent to munster rugby and was surprised to say the least when i saw his name in the back room…

mossy isn’t the biggest either and this also went against him…

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Perhaps we should rechristen this the Rugby Thread?

Anyhoo, good appt by Kidney

Gaffney, Tainton join Irish backroom team
Rugby : Leinster coach Alan Gaffney was today confirmed as the Ireland backs coach as the Australian and Mark Tainton become the latest recruits to Declan Kidney’s backroom team.

Gaffney will combine roles at both provincial and senior level, while Tainton returns to the Ireland set up as kicking coach after being a member of the Ireland coaching staff from 2003 until the end of this year’s Six Nations campaign.

“We are delighted to have both Alan and Mark on board with Ireland. Both of them are extremely strong technical coaches in their areas and I think they will bring a further positive mix to the coaching team and squad,” said Kidney.

“Alan brings with him experience of both international and most importantly Irish rugby. Mark is recognised as one of the top kicking coaches in the world and his experience of working with the squad in the past will help with the transition over the next number of weeks”.

Gaffney served his time as coach with a number of teams in Australia, including the New South Wales Waratahs before joining Leinster as assistant to current Ulster coach Matt Williams. Leinster won the Celtic League in 2001/'02 and were quarter-finalists in the Heineken Cup the same season.

When Kidney left the current European champions to join the Ireland set-up in 2002, Gaffney moved to Munster for three seasons and steered the province to Celtic League and Celtic Cup success and the Heineken Cup semi-final twice.

Gaffney briefly had another spell back in Australia before joining Guinness Premiership side Saracens at the end of 2005, who also reached the Heineken Cup semi-final during his tenure.

Tainton is a former Bristol outhalf who was capped at both England A and U23 level. After retiring in 1997 he was appointed kicking coach for the England tour to Argentina the same year.

He began working with Munster in 2002 before joining the Ireland squad until earlier this year.

2008 The Irish Times

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good appointments…thought that bradley might get the backs coach as a bit of a consolation prize but delighted that gaffer got it…i feel very confident about the new irish set up along with the emergence of buckley, dowling, fitzgerald, kearney, o leary. earls and healy…the future is bright…

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Decent appointments. I know nothing about Tainton’s expertise but as long as we never appoint Dave Alred I’ll be happy.

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2008/0806/1217923985008.html

interesting about Niall O Donovan going for Scotland forwards coach, hes at a serious loose end

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the way the irish team fissled out(pack especially) under o sullivan wouldn’t help his job prospects too much…sound skin niall, a shannon legend…only lives a couple of miles down the road from me…wouldn’t mind giving the daughter a few jabs of the mutton dagger…

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Hear that Brian Begley is trying to get into the Crescent first team to play AIL this year… wonder how he will get on…

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used there be a different begley playing FB for crescent before?

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Seeing a Brian Begley’s knee was too fooked for hurling and football, I cant see him managing AIL rugby.

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Different Brian Begley boss.
Never saw him play but i remember the crescent lads used to be on about him.

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Bit of a typo there from me…

Same chap, but I thought he was going to be playing junior this year, seems he is giving it one more go…

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[quote=“A2LUE42”]Bit of a typo there from me…

Same chap, but I thought he was going to be playing junior this year, seems he is giving it one more go…[/quote]

so to get this straight

The Brian Begley who has in the past and will in the future play for crescent is not the hurler?

Thats what i thought, had asked this question of some Lk heads before

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[quote=“dancarter”]so to get this straight

The Brian Begley who has in the past and will in the future play for crescent is not the hurler?
[/quote]

Correct Dan

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I know its not Munster related, but considering how short the supply of tickets will be for the All Black games here.

The Scottish RFU have put tickets for the AL and SAR games on open sale and have reduced the prices from what they were last year… They must be in some trouble.

http://www.scottishrugby.org/sru/index.cfm?A3E223A7-F1EE-C303-1F0C-D40A00940E65

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[quote=“A2LUE42”]I know its not Munster related, but considering how short the supply of tickets will be for the All Black games here.

The Scottish RFU have put tickets for the AL and SAR games on open sale and have reduced the prices from what they were last year… They must be in some trouble.

http://www.scottishrugby.org/sru/index.cfm?A3E223A7-F1EE-C303-1F0C-D40A00940E65[/quote]

scots fans are a joke, I have been in murrayfield 5 times and the place has never been full. And the stadium is 15 mins walk from city centre

Dont even think it was full for the all blacks game in the world cup FFS

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Kidney may drop O’Driscoll as captain
Sunday, 10 August 2008 09:41
Newly-appointed Ireland coach Declan Kidney has hinted he may take the captaincy away from Brian O’Driscoll.

Last season proved to be a difficult one for O’Driscoll, despite Leinster’s Magners League success and Ireland’s gutsy summer tour to New Zealand and Australia.

The talismanic centre shouldered much of the burden as Ireland slumped alarmingly in the World Cup and RBS 6 Nations championship, the men in green ending the season eighth in the IRB world rankings.

That leaves the Irish needing a productive November series against Canada, New Zealand and Argentina - because the IRB are using the rankings to seed teams for the 2011 Rugby World Cup draw, and December 1 is the cut-off point.

Were Kidney to relieve O’Driscoll of the Irish captaincy, the hope would be that the 29-year-old would thrive without the responsibility and rediscover his best form.

Munster duo Paul O’Connell and Ronan O’Gara would be prime candidates to take on the armband.

‘Brian and I have been talking and taking a look at things. Come November we’ll take a good look at it and we’ll see how things are going,’ said Kidney, who has an extended Ireland squad together this week in Cork.

'At the moment, I think it’s important that he just gets a chance to concentrate on his own game - because he’s been shouldering things for the last five years.

'We’ll see how things go. He’s done a very good job (as captain) - you don’t win three Triple Crowns and just throw that away too easily!

‘At the same time, you want to give him a small bit of space. Without naming a captain … it wouldn’t be usual anyway to name a captain at the start of a (coaching) set-up. We’ll just see how things go and give him a chance to enjoy his own rugby.’

Explaining his aims for his first season in charge, Kidney added: 'November is probably more important than it ever has been this year, in that there’s IRB world ranking points - wherever we stand on December 1 is going to have an effect on the draw for the next World Cup.

'So it has a three-year effect how we go in the next three matches, and that will focus minds.

‘In the Six Nations, first up it’s France at home. I suppose the last time Ireland played France at home, it was just a hop of the ball between having a disappointing day and a great win that could have led to all sorts of things. It would be nice to turn that one around.’

RT.ie

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from rte.ie

The Irish Rugby Football Union has formally applied to host either Rugby World Cup 2015 or 2019.

The International Rugby Board, owner of Rugby World Cup, has confirmed that nine other Unions have formally expressed an intention to host either Rugby World Cup 2015 or 2019.

All IRB Member Unions were invited to express an interest in hosting Rugby World Cup 2015 and/or the 2019 tournament. Australia, England, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Scotland, South Africa and Wales have formally confirmed their interest in hosting Rugby World Cup 2015, while Australia, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Russia, Scotland, South Africa and Wales submitted an expression of interest in tendering for the 2019 tournament.

IRB Chairman Bernard Lapasset said: 'This is tremendous news for Rugby World Cup. The fact that 10 Member Unions have signalled their intention to tender for the 2015 and 2019 tournaments reflects the growing global prestige of the Rugby World Cup.

'Five of the six IRB regions are represented, with Italy, Jamaica and Russia signalling an interest to tender for a Rugby World Cup for the first time. Such a response highlights the growing development and popularity of Rugby across the world.

‘The IRB Council will announce the RWC 2015 and 2019 Host Unions in July 2009, six years prior to the first tournament and 10 years prior to the 2019 event. This timetable reflects the scale and nature of the preparatory work in delivering this world class tournament,’ added Lapasset.

The 10 Unions now have until May 8, 2009 to submit their detailed Tender responses to RWCL. The responses will then be reviewed by RWCL before the Tender Unions will be invited to make a presentation to the IRB Council in May 2009.

The Host Unions for Rugby World Cup 2015 and Rugby World Cup 2019 will be selected at a special meeting of the IRB Council on July 28, 2009.

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sure wev hosted it jointly before

Wed need Thurles, Semple and the new Stadium up north as well as croker to do it on our own…unlikely id say!!

better off giving it to the developing nations anyways IMHO, USA or Japan maybe, saw somewhere that italy are in the running, that would be savage.

BTW Connacht beat A fairly strong Harlequinsteam 28-8 in Galway over weekend, good start for them. Keatly was supposed to be very good at out half

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aren’t parc ui chaoimh renovating into a 60000(all seater although i could be wrong)

so you would have
thomand park 25000
lansdowne road 50000
croke park 82000
park ui chaoimh 60000
the maze above in the north ?

presume the home nations would play their group matches at home…so all we would need is one more stadium sure take your pick from mchale park, gaelic grounds,fitzgerald stadium, rds, thurles…