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Just reading this now …streaming in gaa ffs… discuss.
It’s just not set up for it historically structurally or culturally imo. If a club regularly has enough for three teams or more there should be a new club formed or they should leave and join a smaller club. As far as I can see all the lower team players are usually gone by u14. When if a lot of those were playing for a smaller one team rural club they would be properly developed as they are needed.
Would there be anything to be said for streaming up to u11 and then playing mixed ability teams entered in appropriate divisions up until minor.

Their people not cattle. Their friends and schoolmates are with the club. You can’t just ask them to leave. Good luck trying to find a pitch for a new club in Dublin too.

Plenty of Dublin clubs have A, B, C and even D teams at minor. If there was no streaming you would lose them at 12. The large fall off in participation in B and C teams normally happens after minor.

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I was just firing it out there for discussion really. I’ve never seen them work well. Suppose it’s all in the way they are handled. It’s good that they work somewhere though. I suppose Dublin has had them for years.
In provincial towns they rarely lasted past u12. If you weren’t on the team fuck off and play something else or head off and come back at your good year u14

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Where it works well is there a lot of movement between the four teams as they move up the years or between seasons? Or do they develop their own team identity?
In other counties a huge issue is the lower teams get put in with one club teams and often take spankings.

Also is there 13 14 15 16 etc or move up in two year jumps? That’s often a big problem. They play with their year up till u13 then the better players from year below take the place of weaker lads on the first team. And that resets then every year as the 2011s move up to u16 etc

Sorry if i was a bit sharp. Movement between panels can be difficult to manage. Players sometimes don’t want to move, particularly downwards. But with a bit of common sense it can be managed.

There could be anything from 10 to 14 divisions at these age groups in Dublin so generally all teams will find their level. As B or C team u are occasionally at risk of a hammering from a stacked team as @Juhniallio alluded to above but it doesn’t happen too often and you can sometimes see it coming and stack your own team a little.

Super Clubs get a bad rep a lot of the time and understandably so. But keeping numerous b, c and d team going across all 4 codes is a serious challenge particularly when the players are rarely going to star at adult level. But i feel if u give them a positive experience they will contribute to the club anyway, even if its just bringing their own kids back in the gate in 20 years time.

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We have a strong group at u11 so decided to enter two u12 teams a 5th class team and a 4th class team … Seems like no real checks and balances to stop fellas playing for both or stacking one team if you wanted to…as it happens our 4th class team would hockey the 5th class which is creating a few issues…

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Agree with all this. Our teams are still fairly fluid with movement up/down on a weekly basis.
Btw the same Judes coaches pulled the exact same shit with castleknock recently for 2014.

Great ragebait

The tweet is very misleading.

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I would have no experience of ladies football aside from what I see at intercounty level. But my daughter plays in a weak enough team, albeit they are improving, at u13 and u14 level.

Last few weeks this player development program has started across the county, running for 8 weeks I think culminating in a competition, so she is one of about 60 girls here age at the local sessions. Anyone can put their name in for it if interested enough and about 6 of her team attended

I was there last week to see it. Unbelievably well run. They kept them at it hard enough for almost 90 mins of skills work

They had a game with club last night and the level of improvement after a few weeks of this program is huge. Serious noticeable improvement in the players who were at it.

A fair investment of time and money by the cork LGFA… As her age group rolls out the u15 group rolls in and I assume an older group after that

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They’re a brilliant idea . So many of the girls improve from just being part of it and also get a focus that they never would have got previously as they wouldn’t have been selected for the original development squad structure .

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The coaching “fraternity” just love handpassing

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Any of these coaching guru’s ever thought of actually coaching lads how to kick the ball,i know its a cazy idea but it mght just work.They spend enough years coaching them not to.

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Our lads are 11/12. The fact that ‘through the hands’ is one of the things they hear all the time hurts my heart. Although im known for praising kids who dont pick it up and just play football with it… it enrages the die hard gaa types…

Oh man that fairly gets on my nerves :smile:

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How many fellas have a real clue about the mechanics of kicking the ball. Some kids don’t need help it is natural but I think ignorance in underage coaches is a big blocker here

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True,a lot of underage coaches grew up not kicking a ball properly either.Some young lads are naturals tbf while others haven’t a notion.But as with a lot of these thing youll only have these lads once a week if you’re lucky and then a match so if the dont practice at home they wont be up to much.

Saw a lad in U8 go games doing a spot of loitering by the opposition goal recently. The other side chased the ball forward en masse so he was left in splendid isolation. The ball was wellied down to him at one stage with nobody in the postcode bar a tiny keeper cowering on the goal line. Our lad carefully brought the ball around 8 yards out, turned around so his back was facing the goal, popped the ball up above his head & attempted a bicycle kick finish. The ball scuttered away to the side, & dribbled over the endline around halfway between the goal & the corner of the pitch. Yer man bounces back up, throws his hands into the air, shouts “biceeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy” & jogs back down the field.

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