Hereās your problem right here. There is no Dublin mindset. I doubt you even realise how often you throw out your skewed āDub viewsā.
By the way the Healy Raes (M + D) are supposed to be national politicians not local. Shows a complete misunderstanding of what our system of representation is supposed to be.
I understand it. Howecer i am telling you what alot of rural people think of it. Iām giving you tge reality.
And this you are emphasizing my point.
Its not outrageous to consider a different mindset from one oart of the country to the other. I move 6 miles in any of 2 directions from my family home and i get 2 very different types of people.
I love that if you google the words Parish Pump, this is the third picture to come up
Iām rural. I think itās a load of shit the way the Healy Raes carry on. Does that mean I have a Dublin mindset?
To further that point, Mick Wallace openly campaigned in Wexford on the basis that he does not do local politics, he has no interest in it and was only interested in dealing with national issues. Wexford, I would assume, would be considered rural. He won the first election in a landslide and got through the second one comfortably enough despite being pretty much the exact opposite of the Healy Raes.
I wonder would he fix an aul pothole all the same, if he were asked?
You bogger.
Heās some man to lay paving bricks alright. And I hear he is a great man to sort out personal issues, think he helped someone out on here before too.
soft townie cunt. dont like it up ya at all.
Sounds like Mick has played knifey spooney before.
I dont think iys outrageous at all kev. Its outrageous that you consider there to be a dub mindset. As you say, if i move a few miles one way i get to leafy malahide and its upper class set such as @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy and @anon98850436 with their tenants and superhouse building issues etc. If I move the other way a few miles I get darn dale and coolock and the related gang fued issues, which are a very different āmindsetā.
You are not alone in realising people have different opinions based on their experiences and conditions. You are alone in considering all the people in Dublin, withe their vastly different lives as being of one mind.
Well done on not being the group of people i am talking about. But thats about all you are saying and prives nothing.
Wallace may also have got in on timing and novelty (or frustration with the FF/FG brigade).
I am not defending the Healy-Raes for everything they do. I am simply pointing out the reality.
They all play the game. There was someone on Newstalk the other night talking about how much time is wasted by TDās requesting the HSE find out how long till someone gets an appointment. Thousands of these requests a year. Apparently the Healy Raes fired in a couple of hundred a day before the summer recess alone (now why you need a politician to tell you how long youāll be waiting is another story). They go back to these people then and tell them theyāve got an appointment for them. āJaysus only for Danny Healy Rae Iād still be waiting for my appointmentā.
This and getting passports sorted for lads, helping with planning issues, pretending they are helping schools clubs etc get grants. Taking credit for getting a road fixed even though they had fuck all to do with it. āHelpingā someone on a waiting list get a house even though youāve no actual power.
All these things they ādoā for people are the only way you can get reelected. They all do it, the Healy Raes have just made an absolute machine out of it. They literally āhelpā thousands every year, each one a guaranteed vote, plus probably 3 or 4 friends and family with them who hear how they helped them out.
Then on some things which are open to a nod and a wink they actually help people skip queues ahead of other equally deserving people, which is absolutely fucking disgusting. No politician should ever be able to ring up a civil servant and pressure them to move someone up the line.
Thatās whatās wrong with the country, the Healy Raes are the symptom not the problem. They are just the best at it (along with the likes of Lowry) and ham it up.
Every Dublin politician does exactly the same thing.
Great great post 
No there is definitely a capital city/big mindset. I have seen it all over the world and it does exist in Ireland too.
You just do not want to see it and are bizarrely defensive about it. I have often heard rural people say āi donāt give a fuck about what happens in dublinā and visa-versa āi donāt give a fuck about what happens in south kerryā.
So get real.
dont think you got my point. You said that the local politician who looks after constituency is what is important to rural voters. That was a tactic which Wallace said he was not going to do when he campaigned in a rural area. How can you on one hand say that it is a matter of importance for rural voters when in another rural area it was not a factor at all.
By the same token the Healy Raes got in on timing and novelty if you want to play that card. It cant be one way to suit an argument and completely different when that argument doesnt apply.
Winner.
Absolute winner.
The most balanced i have seen from you.
Its the system that allows the carry on is the problem. The individuals are only making hay. However i do believe the Healy Raes have genuine interest in doing good for thwir area. Do they love the attention? Hell ya, and alot more too. But i would take that over some cunt like Alan Kelly any day.
It may not be a factor in wexford. But it was elsewhere. How do you not understand that point?
However i have no doubt people still voted for Wallace based on the hope of aorting things for their town.
The H-R have family name. They are not much of a nivelty really are they? Their father did get alot done for the area. Go and talk to anyone in Kenmare, he made alot of business for that town.
The lads are not their dad, no doubt about that. But they have the trust of the people. Thats half the battle. Similar to coaching a team.
I think alot of it comes down to image. The modern irish are somewhat embarrassed by the Healy-Raes and the image clouds a balanced look at them or indeed many others. This is commin with the West Brit types and the ones who want to cherry ouck their irishness along with a bit of yank and a bit of this and a bit of thatā¦
what point? the only point you said was that it was a Dublin mindset and rural. I am saying that you cannot just qualify it like that.
Without using your own phrase, but you just proved my point. You are now saying that it is different in Wexford. So surely it can be concluded that there is no rural/Dublin mindset when it comes to how people vote/think considering the different approaches in different rural areas. And you even agree with Julio above who says that Dublin TDās partake in the same sort of crap the Healy Raes do as TDās will partake in whatever bullshit they can to get votes.