Abortion Referendum Thread

You are. You donā€™t seem to know what youā€™re voting on.

I know exactly what Iā€™m voting for.

Because it may affect your future medical treatment. Nothing whatsoever to do with stigmatising it

Or it might not, different doctor, understanding doctor etc

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You havenā€™t a notion. You wonā€™t even discuss the healthy babies of healthy mothers who will not get the chance to live because their mother is too self centred to take responsibility of the consequences of her actions.

You havenā€™t a clue. Take responsibility of your own actions and stop being a cunt for a while.

You see. You blank the actual merits of the discussion out. All you can is deflect and muddy the waters.

There is no merit in discussing anything with you as you are a hypocritical loudmouth.

Iā€™m glad you have confirmed that you think unborn babies hold no merit in an abortion debate. Youā€™ve showed your true colours now.

See, there you go imagining stuff.

@maroonandwhite Cases of rape and incest are the whole reason for the 12 week strand of the permissible terminations. There is no other way that these women can be assisted. None. This is the clear majority conclusion reached by the Oireachtas Committee and the Constitutional Convention. You canā€™t wait for a criminal process to take place to prove the rape as it would take far too long, and any inquisitive process to green light on the grounds of rape would be seriously psychologically damaging on the victim.

They are the reason for the blanket 12 week proposal. Any other non-rape victims are already travelling to England and ordering the pills online (an incredibly dangerous thing when unsupervised).Right to abortion access is already enshrined in the Constitution. Why canā€™t we facilitate them in our own country?

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Iā€™m not imagining it. You have flat out refused to discuss the merit of unborn babies in the abortion debate. You can wheel out rape victims, Mickey Harte, the church, you can muddy the waters with outright lies about me.

Yet you canā€™t discuss the fate of the unborn babies.

Oooftt, thatā€™s a hammer blow

Not really having a go, just pointing it out. Iā€™m sure people will listen to your views on hurling or a bit of slagging back on forth etc. On matters of morality not so much though

Iā€™ve backed up everything Iā€™ve said about you with direct quotes. I know you are an extremely narcissistic loner who thinks everything on here is about you, but this thread is not.

So stop spamming the thread with your incessant drivel.

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The starting point for every medical treatment is your medical history. Of course you could explain what happened but 1. Why the fuck should you have to and 2. They may not believe you

Youā€™re essentially proposing the most Irish solution to a problem ever. Instead of dealing with a very traumatic incident in the same manner it is dealt with all over the western world you go in and try to convince one or more doctors your suicidal.

Thats not very fair to ask women to do this is it

You have not discussed the fundamental aspects of the debate at all. You flat out refuse to and in turn you engage in a campaign of lies and deflection.

Amazing that you donā€™t enjoy this style of debatingā€¦

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You donā€™t engage in anything worthwhile. You just shriek about baby murder, irresponsible mothers and people who have sex.

You cap all of this nonsense off by revealing you donā€™t even vote. Youā€™re a waste of space.

I donā€™t know. I donā€™t recall any debate on the need for a referendum. I am not comfortable with the concept of having a referendum on equal rights for a category of people. We shouldnā€™t be so self congratulatory about it.

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