Ireland politics (Part 1)

So and so will put it up to the Dublin elite .

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Those independents showed their worth this week ---- desperate to cling onto power instead of telling the government to go and fuck.

Ross will be fucked in the next election Iā€™d say, but you are right all the rest will likely be reelected and you wouldnā€™t be surprised if they topped the polls

I think SF have to go in this time. THereā€™s enough of them who really want to Iā€™d imagine (those who are newish to the party and surfed in on the wave of anti establishment sentiment.) Also, I think the electorate will get pretty pissed off wwith them if they donā€™t go in. So itā€™s about who they go in with. And even though I hate them, itā€™s FG for me. FG are open in what they stand for, big business. They are also shit at hiding their corruption. FF on the other hand are the slimiest slĆ­bhĆ­n cunts this country has ever produced. They need 20 years in opposition to root out their corruption and evil, literally by death.

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Possibly, (he certainly should be) but he had a fair gap over his rivals last time I think and thereā€™s a fair amount of toffy-nosed cunts that will vote for him because he has the same accent and writes for the Indo.

SF are now too big to be a fringe protest party . Either the seek to be in government next time out or they are in big danger of being seen as ā€œ dukes of York ā€œ .

The likes of Mary Lou , Pearse Doherty , O broin will soon become weary of constant opposition and worse their base may get weary .

Will anyone go in with SF though? FF be the likelier of the two youā€™d think.

FF detest SF with every fibre of their beingā€¦ It will be FG or no one.

Itā€™s an awful thing to digest.

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SF are not remotely a socialist party . They are FF lite .

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Who said anything about a socialist party? ā€” Sinn Fein are the only 32 county party on the Island ā€” FF are SF lite.

Tweedle dum and tweedle dee so I wonā€™t argue .

FF are the most corrupt nod and wink bunch of wankers this country has ever seen ā€¦ No one is emulating them.

They havenā€™t been in government since 2011 so thatā€™s not true .

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Go way to fuck.

They are everything that is and was ever wrong with this country - @Juhniallio summed them up wonderfully. They need to die a thousand deaths and it still wont be good enough for them.

Leo fucking loves being Taoiseach. Not the actual hard work of running the country but the trips abroad and representing Ireland. Making meaningful speeches too. Heā€™ll get into bed with anyone to keep that. And he can sell it as Ireland being progressive.
If SF managed to implement 20% of their policies at the expense of the FG big business ethos Ireland would be in a much better place. My fear is that SF is full of idealists who havent a fuck how things work and would get bogged down very quickly when shit started to hit fans all around them. But Ireland desperately needs a solution to itā€™s current housing problems and the current/future social problems they are creating.

Sinn FĆ©in are a party of questions not answers. Same as all of them really. Once they get in the civil servants will tell them what to do like always

I think SF have a core of 5-7TDs worth their salt and who wont buckleā€¦ the new emerging SF is young and has a lot to learn but the main players have the back bone and the nous to get shit done. Different ball game when in power and the minority party tho.

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Will Jarry Adams run again? Heā€™s 70 now. Ferris wonā€™t Iā€™d say, supposedly he didnā€™t want to run the last time.

Ferris and Gerry are doneā€¦ Ferrisā€™s daughter hopefully takes his place ā€¦ she was at the recent pres launch campaign ā€” a lovely bit of stuff in the flesh - a fine arse on her tooā€¦ the right reasons to vote for anyone.

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Iā€™d agree. A lot of em havenā€™t ever had to fight for seats either and are afforded a free ride in terms of hiding or chipping in with an odd quote or claim about an issue. But all these things are cyclical. They may not yet feel the pinch in the next election but in the one after that If they are seen not to be doing the job they will be fucked out.
FF face a similar problem in a way in that their core vote was worth a 20% headstart to any gimp running under their logo. THat advantage is literally dying off and individual candidates will have to be a lot better/hardworking themselves in the future. It can only be a good thing.