Roma Family

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What sort of can of worms has been opened with the revelations in Greece recently?

Blonde girl removed from Roma family in Dublin

Gardaí called to a house in Tallaght yesterday afternoon Gardaí called to a house in Tallaght yesterday afternoon
Gardaí have removed a seven-year-old blonde girl from a Roma family in Dublin and taken her into care.
Officers called to a house in Tallaght yesterday afternoon.
They spoke to a Roma family that were living there and saw a number of children, including the seven-year-old girl who has blonde hair and blue eyes.
The parents told gardaí the child was their daughter, but gardaí were not satisfied with the explanation or with the documents that were produced.
Gardaí used their powers under the Child Care Act and removed the child from the family.
It is understood the child is now in the care of the Health Service Executive.
It is believed it will make an application to the courts for a temporary care order.

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I thought this was going to be a thread about @Bandage[/USER] redecorating his love for @[USER=1052]Rudi and Francesco Totti

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[quote=“myboyblue, post: 849951, member: 180”]What sort of can of worms has been opened with the revelations in Greece recently?
Blonde girl removed from Roma family in Dublin

Gardaí called to a house in Tallaght yesterday afternoon Gardaí called to a house in Tallaght yesterday afternoon
Gardaí have removed a seven-year-old blonde girl from a Roma family in Dublin and taken her into care.
Officers called to a house in Tallaght yesterday afternoon.
They spoke to a Roma family that were living there and saw a number of children, including the seven-year-old girl who has blonde hair and blue eyes.
The parents told gardaí the child was their daughter, but gardaí were not satisfied with the explanation or with the documents that were produced.
Gardaí used their powers under the Child Care Act and removed the child from the family.
It is understood the child is now in the care of the Health Service Executive.
It is believed it will make an application to the courts for a temporary care order.[/quote]

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/media/ALeqM5j-fLEuLTA9TSOUfQOAB0hBbDdh0w?size=l

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The lad on the right looks a bit like @Mark Renton

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Odd, I had him down as a different poster, someone who you imagine to be dirty, not a big fan of washing, changing shirts, etc.

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The kid is the spitting image of those 2. :slight_smile:

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Jez, your quick off the mark with that one.

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Police in the Republic of Ireland have removed a seven-year-old blonde girl from a Roma family in Dublin.

The girl was taken into care after officers called to a house in Tallaght on Monday afternoon.

They saw a number of children, including the seven-year-old girl who has blonde hair and blue eyes.

The parents told police the child was their daughter, but officers were not satisfied with the explanation or with the documents that were produced.

The child was removed from the family under powers in the Child Care Act.

It is understood the child is now in the care of the Health Service Executive.

It is believed it will make an application to the courts for a temporary care order.

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I heard a report that the roma couple in Greece had registered something like 10 kids but fucked up on the dates of birth because some of the kids were born 3 months apart.

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is that the Roscommon family?

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Happened an ould neighbour when he was registering calves a few years back, they nearly took the grants off him the cunts.

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Some more facial hair needed…

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I had to go to the trouble of finding my pwd and logging in acknowledge a great post. I nearly choked on hot coffee after reading it.

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You shouldn’t have bothered

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[SIZE=6]An angel kidnapped by Gypsies? In the absence of all the facts, age-old libels are being replayed[/SIZE]
Reporting of the Greek ‘blonde angel’ case is all the more bitter for those who know the myths that have dogged Roma history

She is, we have been told repeatedly, [U]the girl Greece is calling “the blonde angel”[/U][/URL]. She is certainly blonde – and she is a young child who deserves concern as all children do, particularly those facing poverty or discrimination. Whether or not she is angelic is a matter of stereotype rather than personality. She is angelic in the eyes of the media only in stark contrast to the circumstances in which she was found: in a Roma camp in Greece, with dark-skinned parents who, DNA tests have revealed, cannot be her birth parents. The pair appeared in court on Monday charged with child abduction, but are said by their lawyer to be [URL=‘http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/oct/21/greek-roma-couple-maria-adopted-video’][U]distraught at the forcible removal of a child they were raising as their daughter[/U].
Whatever the truth of Maria’s origins, one element of this case is not in doubt. Even before charges were brought, it was widely reported as a case of abduction. The pursuit of [U]Gerry and Kate McCann[/U][/URL] and the mother of [URL=‘http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-24597250’][U]Ben Needham[/U][/URL] for reaction will have cemented that impression in the eyes of many; they have been “given hope”, apparently. Maria’s case may even, it seems, have prompted the seizure by police in Dublin today of [URL=‘http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/22/irish-police-remove-blonde-child-roma-family’][U]another child from a Roma community[/U] after members of the public raised concerns that the child may not be biologically related to the couple she was living with.
Informal adoption is commonplace, particularly in societies where children are raised collectively by extended family units, and families of eight or 10 are not unusual. Across the world, children in economically difficult circumstances are left with grandparents, aunts and uncles, or sometimes given away because the birth parents cannot provide for them. This is hardly a practice unique to Roma society, and it is a long way from deliberate abduction for the purposes of “child trafficking”, an assumption that the non-Roma world has been happy to make with impunity.
This media reporting has to be seen within the context of a blood libel that has dogged Roma communities for centuries. The claim that Jewish people killed Christian children to have human blood for matzos at Passover was used to justify antisemitism throughout the middle ages; in the same way, the age-old myth that Romanies are in the habit of kidnapping white children entered popular folklore around the same time, and has persisted to the present day.
Fictional stereotypes of Romany women revolve around their supposed sexual licentiousness – [U]Carmen[/U][/URL] or [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esm%C3%A9ralda_(The_Hunchback_of_Notre-Dame)’][U]Esmeralda[/U][/URL] – or their psychic powers; whereas Romany men have been portrayed at best as symbols of wild freedom, as in DH Lawrence’s [URL=‘http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virgin_and_the_Gypsy’][U]The Virgin and the Gypsy[/U][/URL] or at worst, as liars and thieves. The passionate love for children patently demonstrated in Roma communities of all types rarely seem to get a mention, strangely enough. But as the Slovakian Roma writer [URL=‘http://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/feb/14/guardianobituaries.booksobituaries’][U]Ilona Lackova said in her autobiography, A False Dawn[/U], “we cannot understand how you would not give a child a smile even if it is not yours”. If a youngster falls over and hurts him or herself in a Roma camp, it’s the business of any adult or older child nearby to provide comfort. The head of the Greek charity that has custody of Maria reported that she was “dirty” and “terrified”: that she may have been dirty because of the appalling conditions in which many Roma are forced to live by poverty and terrified at being removed from her family was not noted.
The racist reporting of the Greek case is all the more bitter to those familiar with Roma history. Renowned expert [U]Prof Thomas Acton[/U][/URL] says, “I know of no documented case of Roma/Gypsies/Travellers stealing non-Gypsy children anywhere.” Far from Romanies abducting white children, the truth has been the other way around. Hundreds of Yenish Roma boys and girls were [URL=‘http://www.errc.org/article/gypsy-hunt-in-switzerland-long-pursuit-of-racial-purity/1203’][U]forcibly taken by the authorities[/U] in Switzerland from 1926 to 1972. The children were placed in orphanages or homes for people with learning difficulties and their families denied all contact with them.
Criminal gangs that exploit children exist in every society – particularly poor ones – but the persistent linking of child abduction with Roma ethnicity per se is nothing more than the perpetuation of a racist medieval myth. We don’t yet know the truth of the adoption of Maria by the community in which she was found, and this myth should be consigned to the historical dustbin.

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When I was a young lad I was often told I’d be given away to the tinkers if I didn’t behave myself.

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I would estimate that the Roma community in Ireland are no more nor no less involved in child abducting than Martin o’Neill is.

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Article is nonsense and all over the place

Put simply if a non Roma family engaged in “informal adoption” and could not establish proper authority to have a child the child would be taken away. If multiple birth certs were produced then that raises further suspicion.

“The passionate love for children patently demonstrated in Roma communities of all types rarely seem to get a mention, strangely enough.” - that extends to forcing a child to beg and depriving it of an education?

These lads cannot live outside the law.

Again I have issues with people being identified by name before conviction and also the rent a quote from people associated witht the McCann case.

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Another Roma couple in Athlone had their child taken from them in recent days but it was returned after they were verified as the parents.