They could have taken the parents at their word, especially when they produced documentation to prove the child was theirs. If they wanted to investigate further they could have done so without taking the child away from her family for 48 hours.
But how. If it really was a abducted child they would be long gone. Do you suggest the cops in greece should have done the same thing? I presume there was some issue with the documentation or else no way would they have just taken the child. Maybe I’m wrong there.
The couple in Greece gave conflicting and contradictory answers when initially asked (during a drug bust, no less) and they both changed their stories several times. They didn’t, and obviously couldn’t, supply any documentation.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Guards took a young child away from her family for no other reason than her parents were Gypsies and she “didn’t look like them”. It was completely reactionary and sensationalist.
My son doesn’t look like me, as he is adopted, so maybe I should carry his adoption papers in my back pocket. But then, Guards would unlikely question a white skinned adult with a dark skinned child.
[quote="His Holiness Da Dalai Lama, post: 850899, member: 1503]
Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Guards took a young child away from her family for no other reason than her parents were Gypsies and she “didn’t look like them”. It was completely reactionary and sensationalist
.[/quote]
No offence but you’re the one being sensationalist. They would have had to have some actual grounds or else theyd be goners.
Exactly. I hand’ realized they had provided documentation. Why is this even a story if that’s the case.
Fucking DNA?
Police state hey. We’ll all have to drop in at a cop shop some day to get our DNA tested.
[quote=“His Holiness Da Dalai Lama, post: 850899, member: 1503”]The couple in Greece gave conflicting and contradictory answers when initially asked (during a drug bust, no less) and they both changed their stories several times. They didn’t, and obviously couldn’t, supply any documentation.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Guards took a young child away from her family for no other reason than her parents were Gypsies and she “didn’t look like them”. It was completely reactionary and sensationalist.
My son doesn’t look like me, as he is adopted, so maybe I should carry his adoption papers in my back pocket. But then, Guards would unlikely question a white skinned adult with a dark skinned child.[/quote]
I was adopted but I look like my adopted brother and father. It’s gas.
I don’t think there was any confusion about getting documents. They handed them straight over. The obviously correct thing to do was to leave the child with the parents unless there was conclusive proof that it wasn’t their child. A monumental fuck up, though the media are very quick to flip to the blame game, the tabloids weren’t as sympathetic to the family yesterday.
Do a bit of police work and not jump to the tune of the tabloids and TV3 hacks.
[quote=“maroonandwhite, post: 850901, member: 1406”][quote="His Holiness Da Dalai Lama, post: 850899, member: 1503]
Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Guards took a young child away from her family for no other reason than her parents were Gypsies and she “didn’t look like them”. It was completely reactionary and sensationalist
.[/quote]
No offence but you’re the one being sensationalist. They would have had to have some actual grounds or else theyd be goners.[/quote]
They took the kid on the basis of a call from a journalist. They then did the same thing to a second Roma family.
Am I right in saying there were discrepancies with the birth cert? There were also issues with regards the name the parents provided matching up to the register office details? Also the hospital, the Coombe I think, had no records of a child with the details they provided being born on that date. Surely these are things you should know about your child?
I’m not buying the passport photo thing as much, but given the details provided there surely was a basis for some degree of investigation, however taking the child may have been a step too far. Of course because they were Roma’s, some people will swallow this one up in their own agenda. As for TV3 and the tabloids, they can go fuck the pondscum.
[quote=“myboyblue, post: 850935, member: 180”]Am I right in saying there were discrepancies with the birth cert? There were also issues with regards the name the parents provided matching up to the register office details? Also the hospital, the Coombe I think, had no records of a child with the details they provided being born on that date. Surely these are things you should know about your child?
I’m not buying the passport photo thing as much, but given the details provided there surely was a basis for some degree of investigation, however taking the child may have been a step too far. Of course because they were Roma’s, some people will swallow this one up in their own agenda. As for TV3 and the tabloids, they can go fuck the pondscum.[/quote]
Discrepancies iwth the birth cert? People don’t write their own birth certs. The sophisticated investigation carried out failed to check under the maiden name of the mother. (Bizarre mistake because babies are often registered in maternity hospitals under the mother’s maide name, even if that’s not going to be the surname of the baby). When they checked under the maiden name, they found there was a record of the birth on the relevant day.
Bloody hell. If that’s what happened then the lads involved should be taken out and shot.
There was a reason I placed a question mark after the sentence Rocko I was asking the question. If thats what happened, then as I said further back, its quite the clusterfuck.
There was a woman on the radio this morning who said children who have already been positively identified as being in a highly vulnerable situation can be waiting up to a year to get access to a social worker.
Yet the HSE and Gardai managed to raise a whole circus of social workers to go raid this particular families home.
Mick Wallace making a right tit of himself on Twitter at the moment suggesting the Gardai leaked the story to the media lapdogs. He should stick to what he knows.
I didnt realise about the mothers maiden name, thats some fuck up so, but does it not stand to reason that supposed it turned out to be an abductee, and when they returned the child was gone, thered be twice as much of a shitstorm. The only thing that makes this case different from the one in greece is iin greece it emerged that the child was abducted. Could just as easily been the same.
[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 850947, member: 1786”]There was a woman on the radio this morning who said children who have already been positively identified as being in a highly vulnerable situation can be waiting up to a year to get access to a social worker.
Yet the HSE and Gardai managed to raise a whole circus of social workers to go raid this particular families home.[/quote]
circus is right
No family should be subjected to that sort of trauma on the back of a speculative hunch of a nosey busybody. The authorities should have done the necessary research and background checks before storming in and taking the child.
Have we had a public apology from anyone yet?
[quote=“Fran, post: 850995, member: 110”]No family should be subjected to that sort of trauma on the back of a speculative hunch of a nosey busybody. The authorities should have done the necessary research and background checks before storming in and taking the child.
Have we had a public apology from anyone yet?[/quote]
Indeed. @maroonandwhite[/USER] implying that the actions here were reasonable by saying it could easily have been the same as Greece is bordering on @[USER=179]artfoley[/USER] and @[USER=236]Fitzy levels of stupidity.