Another rebrand in imminent.
Donāt be too hard on the young fellow. Heāll be just gutted. It was an incredible decision though to go for a drop goal from so far out with Wales having such good field position and South Africa so edgy. Just hold onto the ball and surely the match winning penalty for Wales would have come.
Have South Africa had even one world class out half since Naas Botha
Because I canāt remember one
Pollard is terrible in general play
Stransky and De Beer were about their best and they were no more than competent
I had to look up who their out half was in 2007 was - Butch James - as I couldnāt remember him
Garces was pretty bad on both sides. Which is balanced I guess. 
Even Naas Botha was mostly a big boot.
Sticking the boot into Irish rubby is the one thing that unites 99% of the forum ā¦ hardly surprising to you is it?
Have they even had any world class backs in the professional era
Habana was one I guess
Kolbe has the potential to be one but they never give him the ball
Is it something in the Afrikaaner character that makes them concentrate on a massive forward-driven game
Youād think those dry, parched pitches they have over there would be ideal for developing fast, exciting backs
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them Munster fans can be hard work but the idea of Ewan calling anyone needy is ironic .
Not too many. Andre Joubert was a terrific attacking full back. Bit before that and a contemporary of Naas Botha - Danie Gerber was some centre.
Habana definitely. Heaps of top class scrum halves.
At a stretch youd say jean de villiers, maybe Percy Montgomery were top endā¦but thatās a stretch
Lambie and Goosen were two potentially good 10s who left for overseas and never fulfilled springbok potential
Yes I remember all of them - Botha and Gerber played in 1992 when they came back but were gone soon after
Didnāt see enough of them to really be able to judge them however - Botha was always said to be a great player
Joubert was decent alright, I think I remember him being particularly good in the second test against England at Newlands in 1994 which was live on ITV
South Africa still played a style that didnāt utilise him that much
The same names always crop up in South African rugby teams over the years
Botha
Le Roux
Joubert
Du Plessis
Du Preez
Steyn
Muller
Rossouw
De Villiers
Pienaar
Venter
Yet very few of these names are heard of much if at all in Europe
Afrikaans and Afrikaaner names are a weird bastardisation of Dutch with a bit of German and a touch of French thrown in
Christ Wales were fair brave today, injury after injury & still bringing it
Englands to loose
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and the odd Irish name appearing in there surely?
Professional rugby mate. We are all AIL men
I called that two weeks ago on the poppy thread
Joost
Iām anyone but SA mate, I fucking hate them. Rhoided up drug cheats. Their scrum half is the greatest cunt in world rugby. I absolutely detest the little wanker. I hope England batter the cunts.
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Iām against SA myself ā¦ thereās a large number of that team clearly juiced up. I;m also against England tho ā¦ English rubby union and particularly the calibre of person it attracts goes against everything I hold dear in life.