Rugby World Cup 2019 - Ireland shit the pot all over again

[Sidney]

@ChairmanDan

I was in New Zealand for the first time in the early 90’s. It was bleak and behind the times then. Can only imagine what it was like in the 1970’s and earlier.

Probably like Ireland, except if Ireland had been Protestant

Portadown without the marching season and getting kicked to death by the RUC, maybe

[StoneCold]

@ChairmanDan

in the pantheon of British Lions coaching greats

The argument wasn’t about where Gatland ranked amongst Lions coaches; it was about whether Gatland is a better Coach than Schmidt. Considering Gatland has a Lions tour win and draw under his belt, this would rank him in front of Schmidt Ion the eyes of rugby aficionados such as @GeoffreyBoycott

[ChairmanDan]

Schmidt would rank well ahead of Gatland in the pantheon of Ireland coaches. Gatland is the only one of the seven coaches who’ve brought Ireland to the World Cup to fail to reach a quarter final. Four Five/Six Nations Championship campaigns and no title either for Gatland. When Gatland had his one shot at a Championship/Grand Slam win in 2001, they went to Murrayfield and were hammered 32-10 by Scotland - the only defeat to Scotland in the Championship that decade, Ireland winning the other 9.

[PhattPike]

@Sidney

@ChairmanDan

I was in New Zealand for the first time in the early 90’s. It was bleak and behind the times then. Can only imagine what it was like in the 1970’s and earlier.

Probably like Ireland, except if Ireland had been Protestant

Parts of Southland at the very arse end of NZ’s South Island could well pass for Ireland. I was passing through a town called Riverton, about half an hour west of Invercargill, in the height of summer a few years ago and it was as grand a soft day as a grand soft day could be. There was no sign of the 21st century when I drove through and I’d wager it hasn’t made an appearance yet.

Invercargill itself is an awful, awful place.

[StoneCold]

The goalposts being shifted again I see. We are comparing their overall careers and Gatland’s CV is much more impressive, boosted by the last 2 Lions tours

[anon61878697]

Thsts not what’s being argued. Stop moving the goal posts and spouting waffle.

The Lions is a load of wank.

[ChairmanDan]

You didn’t travel south of Invercargill to Bluff by any chance? Now that’s some shithole.

[anon23727452]

Is Schmidt the only Irish manager with a 100 win record v the other six nations teams at a World Cup? You’d @mikehunt trying to tell me the World Cup is more of a level playing field than the six nations. Schmidt is the only Irish manager to beat the all blacks and possibly win two games in Paris? I don’t remember the 70s. Won a series in Australia too.

[ChairmanDan]

Kid, you and the rugby once every four years soccer crew talk about whatever inane nonsense you want to.

Myself, @Tassotti, @gilgamboa, @anon23727452 and the rest of the rugby crew will engage in whatever rugby chat we want to on a dedicated rugby thread.

[anon61878697]

Well don’t reply to a question if you’ve no intention of actually answering it.

[PhattPike]

@ChairmanDan

You didn’t travel south of Invercargill to Bluff by any chance? Now that’s some shithole.

I did indeed. Bluff, NZ - next stop: Antarctica.

Bluff is bleak, but you’d almost be disappointed to get to it and find a picturesque little town basking in sunshine - Fittingly, it was absolutely pissing out of the heavens when I spun out there. You could barely even make out the refinery sitting in the bay.

Whatever about the bleakness, at least there is some class of civilization down there. The West Coast, particularly around Haast, is real post-apocalyptic shit.

[ChairmanDan]

The West Coast of the South Island is one of the rainiest places on earth. It just gets dumped on from the Tasman Sea. Canterbury and Christchurch on the other side of the Southern Alps gets very little rain by comparison.

The West Coast is the one section of the South Island where the few people that are in it are predominantly of Irish Catholic extraction. Trust the Micks to set up camp in one of the wettest places on earth. There was a gold rush there in the 1860’s and a lot came over after Australian gold rush. Greymouth, Hokitika and Westport are as bleak as towns as you’ll find anywhere in the world.

West Coast has contributed close to nothing to the New Zealand team historically.

[anon78624367]

@ChairmanDan

Trust the Micks to set up camp in one of the wettest places on earth.

The brits used it as a penal colony mate. They kept the nice places for themselves. They sent the slaves, prisoners and natives to the shitholes.

[glasagusban]

@ChairmanDan

Myself, @Tassotti, @gilgamboa, @FruitSalad and the rest of the rugby crew will engage in whatever rugby chat we want to on a dedicated rugby thread.

Another perfect illustration of my point, thank you Dan.

Rugby World Cup 2019 - Ireland shit the pot all over again

It’s hilarious the levels of specious reasoning lads will go to and the hoops they will try to jump through to to avoid criticising the rugby team. It’s like they can’t accept simple and basic facts. The team and players have been hyped up as world class, the coach is lauded as “the best coach in the world”, ad nauseum, the players are hailed as wonderful role models and examples of good character. When they fail miserably the rugby crowd can’t accept that some or all of those narratives are wro…

[artfoley]

@glasagusban

@ChairmanDan

Myself, @Tassotti, @gilgamboa, @FruitSalad and the rest of the rugby crew will engage in whatever rugby chat we want to on a dedicated rugby thread.

Another perfect illustration of my point, thank you Dan.

Rugby World Cup 2019 - Ireland shit the pot all over again

C’mon glas, the RWC thread is hardly the place to discuss the failing of the Irish team at the em, er, RWC

[Locke]

I was at that game, it was held in September, the year of the foot and mouth. Scotland were good that day tbf.

@ChairmanDan

Schmidt would rank well ahead of Gatland in the pantheon of Ireland coaches. Gatland is the only one of the seven coaches who’ve brought Ireland to the World Cup to fail to reach a quarter final. Four Five/Six Nations Championship campaigns and no title either for Gatland. When Gatland had his one shot at a Championship/Grand Slam win in 2001, they went to Murrayfield and were hammered 32-10 by Scotland - the only defeat to Scotland in the Championship that decade, Ireland winning the other 9.

[peddlerscross]

SportsJOE (SportsJOEdotie)

[Perez2017]

If England win tomorrow surely no need for this lions rubbish going forward.

[Ashman]

In 2003 England won RWC & the Lions were hammered by NZ in 2005 . The Lions will endure .

[anon61878697]

Of course it will — it’s a ridiculous money spinner for a lot of people, particularly ex - players. The Lions will be the last thing to go.