I’ve read this a few times now and it might well be the most beautiful remembrance of a person (people actually , elegantly including Sinead) I’ve ever read. That’s a really extraordinary piece of writing, fitting it’s by Nick about Shane.
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For me:
Come on Pilgrim - Pixies
U2 Three - U2
Special mention to Chronic Town by REM and the one by Joy Division I can’t remember the name of.
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I like Primal Scream the Dixie Narco EP and the Cramps Blue Fix. Also a shout out to this one.
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Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
That is all.
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Could you wrap everything up in three records? I’ve ones i always return to alright but I’m constantly going down different rabbit holes - there’s just too much good music out there in every genre.
The album that blew my mind as a 13 year old was Never Mind. I can still remember hearing the opening riff to Smells Like Teen Spirit - my balls dropped at that moment. Generally I’ve a different obsession every other month… At the moment it’s the Blue Nile - A walk across the rooftops 
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Beautiful
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We were discussing EPs which are a relatively rare breed.
Jar of Flies & Rival Sons. Poguetry in Motion would be 2nd, I think.
Cherry Tree, Lazy Line Painter Jane & Boundary Road Snacks and Drinks just after those.
Sorry bud.
Shane MacGowan saw right through Mark E. Smith’s “intellectual” influences.
HEROES AND VILLAINS
Mark, of the three of you, would you admit to being the professional cynic?
MES: No. Cynicism and defensiveness are two things constantly levelled at me. Look, I’ve got time for people, I’m good mannered. I usually find that when you’re down, nobody has a bloody minute for you. If I was a nobody, you wouldn’t even talk to me.
SM: You are nobody.
MES: Fuck off. It’s bloody true. Neither would you, Nick.
NC: Bullshit! That’s bullshit. I take offence at that.
MES: I’m not levelling anything at you. People, in general, don’t like you being upfront and civil. They hate you for it. They label you a cynic 'cos you’re reasonable.
SM: You’re not reasonable, though. You’re a rude bastard. That’s fair enough.
MES: OK, I’m cynical. But I’m not defensive. I’m slightly paranoid which is healthy.
Slightly?
MES: Listen, Sean, do you walk around London embracing everybody? If I was in the bleedin’ gutter, you wouldn’t piss on me.
NC: Your reaction is becoming very defensive, Mark.
MES: You’re a failed psychiatrist.
NC: I’ve analysed you, alright – defensive paranoid with delusions of grandeur.
MES: I have discussions like this all the time in pubs. I end up beaten half to death on the floor. I try to be civil and people assume I’m attacking them.
SM: You attack people all the time. In the press.
MES: I used to. It became too routine so I gave it up. Nietzsche said Embrace your enemies’. You two aren’t my enemies, so I won’t embrace you.
SM: Read a lot of Nietzsche, have you?
MES: All his stuff. I cant quote him. I’m not into him anymore, gave up three years ago. He taught me a lot, though. I didn’t go to college. We’re not all born public school boys like you.
SM: I’m not a born public schoolboy.
MES: Do you like Brendan Behan, he’s good.
SM: Yeah, he’s not a fascist maniac posing as a philosopher.
MES: If we’re gonna talk philosophy, that’s a load of crap! The Nazis adopted his creed and distorted it, they misquoted him all the time.
SM: The Will To Power Try reinterpreting that statement. You can’t, it says what it says.
MES: He wasn’t a Nazi – you’re only saying that ‘cos some polytechnic fuckin’ lecturer told you he was.
SM: I’m saying it 'cos I read two of his books where he dismissed the weak, the ugly, the radically impure, Christianity, Socrates, Plato. He was anti anyone who hadn’t got a strong body, perfect features…
MES: That’s the coffee table analysis. He was the most anti-German, pro-Semitic person…
SM: His books were full of hate.
MES: You just said you’re full of hate when you go on stage.
SM: I don’t go round saying Socrates was a c***, Jesus Christ was an idiot, do l?
MES: Jesus Christ was the biggest blight on the human race, he was. And all them socialists and communists – second rate Christianity. It’s alright for you Catholics. I was brought up with Irish Catholics. Some of my best friends are Irish Catholics.
SM: Listen to him.
MES: Hitler was a Catholic vegetarian, non-smoker, non-drinker. The way you’re talking about Nietzsche is that anyone who’s a non-smoker, non-drinker is a Nazi. That’s the level of your debate, pal.
SM: You’re anti-socialist, too. Ain’t you?
MES: Yeah. I’m an extreme anti-socialist. You don’t live on a housing estate in a city where there’s been socialism for 30 years and they keep saying it’s gonna get better all the time and it never does. Thirty fucking years of it getting worse and worse. You obviously haven’t experienced that, living in London.
SM: What’s the alternative?
MES: I don’t have to worry about that. I’m an adult. I’m working class, me. I come from a generation that fuckin’ created this nation pal. You lot, you just sit around and talk about socialism, you’re the bloody problem. Eighty per cent of this country are white trash, working class. How come they don’t vote Labour? ‘Cos the Labour Party area fuckin’ disgrace, that’s why. I’m against socialism on principle. Engels – he was a factory owner in Manchester exploiting 13 year-old girls. Learn your history, pal, learn your history. I suppose you blame all Ireland’s problems on the British. All the problems of the world are down to Britain. That’s what you think, why don’t you say it? You can’t bloody tell me anything about oppression cos, I’ll tell you something pal, if you’d been part of Germany, you’d have been liquidated. If you were part of Russia, you wouldn’t even exist.
Don’t tell me about oppression, my parents and grandparents were exploited to the hilt. Sent to wars, they had gangrene in their teeth. My grandfather was at Dunkirk and all you can see is Margaret Thatcher on my face when, actually, she’s on Nick’s face. Isn’t she Nick? Come on, Nick, help me out. Basically, I like to discuss things right down the line and I don’t agree with anybody…
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Pretty much all of Oasis’s singles were EPs.
If you want to have a wanky discussion about what an EP is and what it isn’t, I’m here*.
*Not here.
That must be peak McGowan. What an album
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She was on the radio there with Brendan O’Connor this morning.
“An ill woodwind that nobody blows good”
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I don’t know if your or @caulifower or TUM might know, but I see Roy Taylor passed away in the summer of MND.
For some strange reason that jump the gun song was always my favourite Irish Eurovision song, probably because I saw him on his own in a pub in Drogheda midweek a few years after playing keyboard, and he sang a great version, and I’d a chat with him after. I was only a teenager and he was an absolutely lovely man.
He said it was written about a friend who’d been found dead in the road after iirc a car crash. I wonder does anyone know the story behind it. For some strange reason, spider Stacey comes into my head, but I’m not sure why.
The Fall were very good,
But not good enough to look the other way to the complete cuntishness of Mark E Smith,
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I wonder was it the other guy that you met, the keyboard player wrote that song
An unusual fact that I remember from the time, I was a bit of a Eurovision fan back when we did well
I thought I it was a good song also
‘You could look him in the eye,
And holdout your hand
Tell him you’re his brother
And he’d understand’
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Probably was the keyboard player. I think he’d written the song. Was a real nice man
James Fearnley told of Ali Campbell of UB40 demanding to see Shane when both bands were together at some festival.
He forced his way onto the Pogues bus and wanted to meet his ‘kindred spirit’. Shane was on the back seat, out of it and Campbell started shaking him to speak to him. No dice. Fearnley describes how he himself told Campbell to fuck off and leave him alone to which Campbell responded with a square up. It ended anyway with Campbell getting off the bus in a rage.
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