Sir Robert Mugabe - geldof hero

whaddya reckon ?

Zimbabwe’s MDC party says it will carry out its own investigation into the cause of Friday’s crash in which Morgan Tsvangirai’s wife Susan died.

But officials have said nothing to suggest they suspect foul play.

US embassy officials say the lorry which collided with Mr Tsvangirai’s car belonged to a partner organisation of the US government aid agency USAID.

MDC general-secretary Tendai Biti paid tribute to Mrs Tsvangirai, calling her “a mother to us and to our struggle”.

On Saturday afternoon, Mr Tsvangirai, 56, left the Harare clinic where he was treated for injuries sustained in the crash.

The previous evening he was visited in hospital by his political rival President Robert Mugabe and his wife Grace.

Robert Mugabe visits Morgan Tsvangirai in hospital
State TV reported that the prime minister had suffered some injuries to his head and neck.

Mr Tsvangirai was on his way to his rural home in Buhera, where he planned to hold a weekend rally, when the crash occurred near Beatrice at about 1600 local time (1400 GMT) on Friday.

It is thought that a lorry carrying freight crossed into the lane in which Mr Tsvangirai’s 4x4 was travelling and side-swiped their vehicle, causing it to roll over three times.

The AFP news agency quoted a minister in Mr Tsvangirai’s Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) party as saying the driver of the lorry had been asleep at the wheel.

Another report said the truck had hit a pothole in the road.

An official at the US embassy in Harare was quoted by AFP news agency as saying the truck belonged to an organisation partnered with the US government aid agency USAID.

“It belongs to a partner of USAID who deliver HIV/Aids [drugs] and other medical supplies,” the official told AFP, on condition of anonymity.

All Zimbabwe’s roads are in a poor state of repair after years of neglect, say correspondents.

Police escort

But in the news conference, Mr Biti said the accident could have been avoided if a police escort had been provided.

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“Logic would have demanded that police escort be provided to the prime minister to warn other traffic and this tragedy could have been avoided,” he said.

However, correspondents point out that Mr Tsvangirai was not entirely comfortable with security provided by the new government, relying instead on his own security teams.

Mr Biti said police investigations were under way but said the party would carry out its own independent investigation.

Mr Biti, who broke down several times, said Mrs Tsvangirai was a “pillar of strength” to her husband and the party.

Earlier, senior MDC official Eddie Cross said her death would be “a huge blow for Morgan”.

Shocked relatives and friends of the Tsvangirais have gathered at the family home.

Discreet

The crash came just two days after Mr Tsvangirai delivered his maiden speech to parliament after being sworn in as prime minister in Zimbabwe’s power-sharing government.

He and his Susan, 50, who married in 1978, had six children.

A look at the important role Susan Tsvangirai played in her husband’s life

The BBC’s Andrew Harding, in Johannesburg, says that Mrs Tsvangirai was very discreet and stayed out of the limelight, but was a very important part of her husband’s life.

She was a great source of strength to her husband when in the past he was charged with treason and assaulted for his opposition to Mr Mugabe, and sat through all his treason trial, our correspondent says.

She also made a point of visiting MDC members who were jailed while the party was in opposition, he adds.

Her death comes at a very challenging time for the fledgling power-sharing government, our correspondent says, and will only make matters more complicated.

The British foreign office and US state department sent their condolences to Mr Tsvangirai.

Asolutely. The car was hit from the side by a truck. How does a Leaders car even come near a truck.

They were both on the road?

MDC spokesman on Channel 4 news claimed that the whole thing was an organised hit.

When I heard about this yesterday the first thing that came into my head was that it was deliberate. You’d want to be very naive to think that it wasn’t. A bit like a white Zimbabwean lad I was chatting with in Howl at the Moon before Christmas '07. I couldn’t believe it - he thought Mugabe was alright. No matter what kind of argument was put to him he still wouldn’t change his opinion. Myself and my mates couldn’t believe it. The lad clearly some kind of guilt complex. An elderly relation of mine was a missionary priest in Zimbabwe for 35 years and he says that Mugabe is a truly evil man. Torture would be too good for him IMO.

White Zimbabweans. White South Africans. Pretty much all cunts.

In the current climate the deliberate hit angle does carry a lot of weight to be fair. I’m sure more details will come out but I wouldn’t trust any of the mainstream news outlets on this one.

Probably. He has prior with this sort of thing.

Harsh on Bruce Grobbelaar, Watch The Break.

If Mugabe was upstanding enough to be awarded the Order of the Bath by Her Majesty, how bad can he be?

roads in that part of the world are death traps, if Mugabe wanted to do him there are 100 better ways.

Driving someone off the road is not exactly clinical stuff, i doubt it

[quote=“HBV*”]roads in that part of the world are death traps, if Mugabe wanted to do him there are 100 better ways.

Driving someone off the road is not exactly clinical stuff, i doubt it[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moven_Enock_Mahachi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gezi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Manyika

I would just have thought a Presedential car would be protected by other cars (probably military) on any journey.
But maybe i watched too much West Wing.

[quote=“artfoley”]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moven_Enock_Mahachi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gezi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Manyika[/quote]

I wonder do the 4 who voted No still think that after reading the above. Stinks to the high heavens this one.

there is every possibility this was an arranged hit by Mugabe.
However 3 politicians getting killed in road accidents is hardly conclusive evidence, especially when 2 of the 3 were Mugabe henchmen.

Bad road accidents happen as the norm down there, and as art has rightly shown they don’t just happen to Mugabe opposition. Good work Art.

Tsvangirai took a hell of a beating two years ago, if Mugabe needs to get rid of him im sure he would simply make him disapear, not some clumsy road accident where the outcome cannot be controlled.
just my opinion

[SIZE=“4”][SIZE=“3”]Tsvangirai demands inquiry into crash that killed his wife[/SIZE][/SIZE]

[I]Police arouse MDC suspicions by placing truck driver who caused collision in ‘protective custody’

By Daniel Howden, Africa Correspondent
[/I]

Zimbabwe’s Prime Minister, Morgan Tsvangirai, left hospital in Harare yesterday and flew to Botswana for further treatment as his party called for an independent inquiry into Friday’s fatal crash that killed his wife.

US authorities have confirmed to officials from the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) that the truck that hit the premier’s car, causing it to roll three times, was carrying Aids drugs donated by the American government. It was driven by a local contractor.

“There is no evidence at this stage of wrongdoing, but we are demanding an independent inquiry into the circumstances of the crash,” a senior MDC member, Eddie Cross, told The Independent on Sunday. The party said it would accept an investigative team from neighbouring South Africa. However, a number of questions remain to be answered, amid continuing speculation that the Prime Minister, who joined his bitter political rival Robert Mugabe in an uneasy “unity” government last month, was the victim of an assassination attempt.

The 56-year-old was travelling to his rural home south of Harare in a convoy of three vehicles late on Friday afternoon. His own security detail in the lead vehicle saw the USAID truck pass driving normally. However, it then veered into the oncoming lane, and would have hit Mr Tsvangirai’s vehicle head on, had the Prime Minister’s driver not taken evasive action. The truck struck the rear of his vehicle, flipping it and killing Mr Tsvangirai’s wife Susan.

A local farmer contacted by MDC security reached the scene outside the town of Beatrice before the police and took photographs of the crash site. When police arrived, they arrested him and confiscated both still and video cameras. All three vehicles were later removed from the roadside, and the Zimbabwean truck driver was yesterday placed in “protective custody”, further raising suspicions.

The crash comes after a fortnight in which there have been three separate incidents of senior MDC members or their allies being involved in suspicious car accidents. In each case, both front tyres of the new vehicles in which they were travelling blew out unexpectedly.

The presence of three members of the shadowy Joint Operations Command (JOC), who were somehow waiting at the Avenues Clinic in Harare before the Prime Minister had even arrived from the crash site, aroused further concern. Supposedly disbanded by the new unity government, the JOC was the body that led covert operations against the former opposition MDC, and made previous attempts on Mr Tsvangirai’s life. “How did they know he was coming in?” asked one MDC member, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The three men, Emmerson Mnangagwa, Patrick Chinamasa and the head of the feared intelligence agency, Happyton Bonyongwe, were seen in the clinic car park and stayed there until Mr Mugabe arrived with his wife to visit Mr Tsvangirai, nearly two hours later. The President was seen to confer with the trio before leaving.

The former trade union leader was said to be devastated at the loss of his wife. Friends described the couple, who had been married for 31 years and had six children, as “soul mates”, and said a difficult period of mourning awaited the Prime Minister. Should any evidence of foul play emerge, it would certainly unravel the already dysfunctional administration of political foes, still only three weeks old. Although Zimbabwe is beset by economic and health crises, there has as yet been almost no indication of progress by the new unity government.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/tsvangirai-demands-inquiry-into-crash-that-killed-his-wife-1639782.html

[quote=“HBV*”]there is every possibility this was an arranged hit by Mugabe.
However 3 politicians getting killed in road accidents is hardly conclusive evidence, especially when 2 of the 3 were Mugabe henchmen.

Bad road accidents happen as the norm down there, and as art has rightly shown they don’t just happen to Mugabe opposition. Good work Art.

Tsvangirai took a hell of a beating two years ago, if Mugabe needs to get rid of him im sure he would simply make him disapear, not some clumsy road accident where the outcome cannot be controlled.
just my opinion[/quote]

well, think of it this way HB. our roads are incredibly dangerous and yet not one of our politicos have died in a car crash

and killing off your allies by a psycho wouldn’t be anything new

here’s 2 examples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Rohm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Ilyich_Yegorov

[quote=“artfoley”]well, think of it this way HB. our roads are incredibly dangerous and yet not one of our politicos have died in a car crash

and killing off your allies by a psycho wouldn’t be anything new

here’s 2 examples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Rohm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Ilyich_Yegorov[/quote]

I sincerely hope that remark was made tongue in cheek. Given the political climate as we understand it in the west you would have to be more or less a complete idiot to rule out the possibility of attempted murder here. I just do not trust mainstream media accounts of what is happening there however. There is no real reporting of core political issues, only the games that Mugabe is playing. His characterisation as Satan himself by the media just reminds me too much of similar shit that has been done elsewhere when the Brits and the Yanks opposed someone (see Allende, Mossadegh, Chavez, the Sadinistas, Arafat etc.). I don’t doubt that he’s a cunt, just that the situation deserves closer examination than it is getting.

[quote=“artfoley”]well, think of it this way HB. our roads are incredibly dangerous and yet not one of our politicos have died in a car crash

and killing off your allies by a psycho wouldn’t be anything new

here’s 2 examples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Rohm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Ilyich_Yegorov[/quote]

no, our roads are perfectly fine in comparison. believe me on this one.
again he possibly did it, but the evidence you provide Art would be more suited to a Hardy Boys story

Tsvangirai grandson dies in pool:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7984293.stm

This is nuts.

If these are accidents then he is a very unfortunate man.

If this is somehow the work of Mugabe then he is one evil, evil fook.

Anyway RIP and all that.

Could it be all over for the big man?

Coup time :crazy_face: