Six Nations 2009

not up to the job yourself? :stuck_out_tongue:

bigger fish to fry than a simpleton like you

and again with the insults, I’d love to have a battle of wits with you but I don’t fight those who can’t defend themselves :slight_smile:

next from SDCC rover: sign saying fcuk off art foley

Hang on, I thought this thread was about Rugby and the 6 Nations…

sometimes threads develop organically away from the initial post -you just have to run with it

That is normally down to the amount of manure you spread in them ncc:p

Anyone think the scots can cause a few shocks this year. They have turned over the English and the French in recent years, while their ML teams are improving each season. I don’t expect them to win it, but I do think that they will prevent a grand slam from occuring.

They will be hard to beat at Murrayfield but can’t see them doing much away from home

Considering how poor the English and the French are these days…anything can happen.

My team anyway…

  1. Horan

  2. Flannery

  3. Hayes

  4. O’Callaghan

  5. O’Connell (Captain)

  6. Ferris

  7. Wallace

  8. Heaslip

  9. O’Leary

  10. O’Gara

  11. Earls

  12. O’Driscoll

  13. Cave

  14. Bowe

  15. Kearney

Christ NCC you sure can hijack a thread. I’ve been to games in Scotland and Wales and they are very proud of their nations. They just need to grow a pair and leave Englands bosom, that’s all.

Back to the thread. I think this is going to be one of the most open 6 nations for a long time. Can’t see anyone winning all their matches. As said before for Ireland, the opening game will decide a lot. The team won’t fear France, especially at home and the form of the 3 Heineken Cup provences should mean that there will be a high level of confidence going into this years comp.

I haven’t seen Cave playing so I won’t pass judgment on him but by all accounts he’s in great form. No contest but O’Leary should be in at #9, the way he’s going he’ll be a shoe in for a Lions squad place and pushing for a test call up. Rog, Drico and Bowe will join him in the back line then it’ll be between Kearney, Earls, Cave, Wallace, Fitzgerald, Humphreys for the other 3 places. I’d hope that Kearney starts at full back for one, Earls out on the wing too.

Going to the game in Murrayfield so looking forward to that. They fooking hate the English and love the Irish, should be a cracking weekend. Hibs are playing Hearts on the Sunday but couldn’t get tickets. Manyoo v Liverpool on the lunchtime kickoff on the Saturday; Christ I’ll be ribbons coming home…

I’d be going for

Kearney
Bowe
O Driscoll
Fitzgerald
Earls
O Gara
O Leary

Horan
Best
Hayes
O Connell
O Callaghan
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip

Buckley (I presume) Flannery, Cullen, Leamy, Reddan, Humphreys, Cave on the bench.

Think everyone’s agreed on the bulk of the team with Flannery v Best the main debate in the pack. Cave has had a cracking run but I’d have him on the bench to start with to give him a chance to get to grips with things. I think Murphy will be involved though.

[quote=“therock67”]I’d be going for

Kearney
Bowe
O Driscoll
Fitzgerald
Earls
O Gara
O Leary

Horan
Best
Hayes
O Connell
O Callaghan
Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip

Buckley (I presume) Flannery, Cullen, Leamy, Reddan, Humphreys, Cave on the bench.

Think everyone’s agreed on the bulk of the team with Flannery v Best the main debate in the pack. Cave has had a cracking run but I’d have him on the bench to start with to give him a chance to get to grips with things. I think Murphy will be involved though.[/quote]

Buckley has bearly played this season for munster rock struggling with alleged scarlet fever so I doubt he will make it…Don’t think Heaslip should start, he was poor again at the weekend and Leamy looks sharp after his return from injury…As think that O Driscoll’s days as an outside centre at international level are over and should be moved to 12, put Earls at 13 where he can run his hard straight lines and put Fitz on the wing where he can jink and step, possibly switching/alternating at set pieces…

Glandular fever Puke not scarlet fever.

Cave should be ahead of Earls for the 13 shirt based on what Iv seen this season

[quote=“dancarter”]Glandular fever Puke not scarlet fever.

Cave should be ahead of Earls for the 13 shirt based on what Iv seen this season[/quote]

I knew it was something like that dan;)…

I can’t see Kidney starting Cave against the French for his first cap but he definately worth a run in the 6 nations

Cave is playing better but I’d be inclined to stick with partnerships and have Fitzgerald with O’Driscoll in the centre. The 12/13 issue means they’ll alternate between first and second receiver but O’Driscoll did this alot with D’Arcy anyway.

So who’s our prop on the bench these days?

[quote=“The Puke”]I knew it was something like that dan;)…

I can’t see Kidney starting Cave against the French for his first cap but he definately worth a run in the 6 nations[/quote]

Schoolboy error in fairness.

[quote=“therock67”]Cave is playing better but I’d be inclined to stick with partnerships and have Fitzgerald with O’Driscoll in the centre. The 12/13 issue means they’ll alternate between first and second receiver but O’Driscoll did this alot with D’Arcy anyway.

So who’s our prop on the bench these days?[/quote]

Id go with Cave myself. Would be a serious statement on Kidneys behalf. Alternatively id give Bowe a shot at 13.

My backs
TOL
ROG

11- Fitz
12- BOD
13- Cave
14- Bowe
15- kearney

Fuck me…

Peel left out of Wales’ Six Nations squadRUGBY – SQUAD NEWS : British and Irish Lion Dwayne Peel has been left out of the Wales squad for this season’s RBS Six Nations Championship.

The Sale Sharks scrumhalf, who has won more than 60 caps, misses out on a place in coach Warren Gatland’s 28-man group.

Gatland has named two specialist scrumhalves in Gareth Cooper and Mike Phillips, who returns to Wales duty after missing the entire autumn Test series through injury.

Gatland has trimmed his squad from the one required last November, and Peel is joined by Ospreys hooker Richard Hibbard in failing to make the cut, along with Morgan Stoddart, Dan Biggar, Martin Roberts and Eifion Roberts.

Ospreys lock Ian Evans, meanwhile, is sidelined through injury for the rest of this season, so there is a call-up for 22-year-old Cardiff Blues Heineken Cup hero Bradley Davies, while prop Duncan Jones is another injury absentee.

Davies, the solitary uncapped player in Gatland’s party, scored Blues’ winning try against Gloucester at Kingsholm yesterday that secured a quarter-final place.

Wales, the reigning Six Nations champions, are strengthened by the return of 2008 Grand Slam heroes like fit-again Ospreys trio Phillips, Gavin Henson and Jonathan Thomas.

Ospreys fullback Lee Byrne is named, despite suffering an ankle injury and limping off against Heineken Cup opponents Perpignan on Saturday, and recent appendicitis victim Mark Jones also makes it.

But Peel’s omission is a major surprise, and could seriously dent his chances of making a second successive Lions tour after claiming the Test number jersey in New Zealand in 2005.

"There are a few important players back from injury,” said Gatland. "Huw Bennett is back with us, and the likes of Mike Phillips, Gavin Henson and Jonathan Thomas have been unavailable to us for some time now, so we think they are going to really strengthen the squad.

"We had a very hard decision to make at scrum-half, but were greatly impressed by the performances of Mike Phillips last year during the Six Nations and felt Gareth Cooper has done well, both on tour in the summer and in the autumn series.

"It’s a decision that we debated long and hard, and the result is really difficult.

"It probably boiled down to the fact that Mike Phillips has played more rugby than Dwayne Peel since the autumn, but it doesn’t mean that the door is always going to be shut for him or anyone.

"We’ve tried to keep the squad relatively similar to the last Six Nations campaign.

“Part of that philosophy is to keep everything nice and tight and everyone in the squad feeling there is an opportunity to play for Wales, and also make it difficult for people to come into the squad - make players really earn the right.”

Wales, currently ranked fifth in the world, launch their campaign against Scotland at Murrayfield on February 8th. They are the bookmakers’ favourites to stage a successful title defence.

Gatland added: "We will accept the challenge of being favourites - it’s a new experience for a lot of coaches, as well as players.

"We have to make sure we are mentally right for Scotland.

"We have different pressures on us, perhaps a fear of failure, and the expectation is on us to go out there and perform.

“But it will be very much like last year - win the first game and create momentum for success, lose that first game and we come home to England and away to France and it could be a completely different story.”

Wales squad :

Forwards : Gethin Jenkins, John Yapp, Adam Jones, Rhys Thomas, Matthew Rees, Huw Bennett, Ian Gough, Alun-Wyn Jones, Luke Charteris, Bradley Davies, Ryan Jones ©, Jonathan Thomas, Daffyd Jones, Andy Powell, Martyn Williams, Robin Sowden-Taylor

Backs : Mike Phillips, Gareth Cooper, Stephen Jones, James Hook, Gavin Henson, Andrew Bishop, Jamie Roberts, Tom Shanklin, Shane Williams, Leigh Halfpenny, Mark Jones, Lee Byrne

Peel is behind those lads in the pecking order for a while id say. he is far better than Cooper. But Phillips is streets ahead of both

Philips is a great player at times, but his temprament is a bit suspect when the chips are down… Peel as you say is a long way better than Cooper. (He is also way better than wigglesworth as well)